Posts that seem less than useless, or something like that

[Joshua2]

Originally Posted by FactorEyes

Fine with me. How about not judging atheists as a homogeneous block in the same manner, then? See the parallel? Why should Christians be above such judgment if atheists aren't?

That was actually my whole point. I was saying both sides tend to say well look at hitler or look at the crusades, and it doesn't really accomplish anything by drudging the bottom of the barrel. I would say that some people are corrupt enough to corrupt anything to evil.

But like someone said earlier someone who believes something that the most important thing is doing to other people what you would want them to do to you has one extra layer between doing bad, beyond the conscience, morals, and possible consequences on earth, if there is also eternal consequences for being mean.

[Joshua2]

Originally Posted by FactorEyes

These modern regimes benefited from better technologies of mass murder and totalitarianism, and a larger population of humans to imprison, enslave, and kill. If the Spanish Inquisition had the technology, I'm not sure Stalin would look too impressive in comparison.

So I agree we have more technology today, thus you are free to use examples of Christians killing millions today as well. I think the reason why this hasn't happened because in general christians are better educated and can actually read the Bible and see the moral teachings for themselves instead of just listening to a rabble rouser who uses "Christianity" for his own interests.

[Joshua2]

Originally Posted by FactorEyes

This is the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

The Crusaders were Christians, no doubt about it.

So if you look up where the name Christian came from it is little Christ. So to be a Christian is to try to be Christ like. So if you're not trying to be like Christ, you are not a Christian. What did Christ come to do? He came to "seek and save the lost", his trip to earth was a mercy mission to save those who couldn't save themselves.

The difference is a scotsman is a nationality and not a belief. Any ethnicity could do anything. However the term Christian is defined as believing what Christ said is true and trying to follow in his footsteps. Someone who hasn't read all of Christ's teachings could hear one thing out of context and do evil things, but the solution for that is education in what Christ really taught ie turn the other cheek, love those that persecute you.

Contrast to this to what the Koran says:
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is evident from what they utter with their mouths, but greater is the hatred which their breasts conceal" (3:118).

"If you have suffered a defeat, so did the enemy.We alternate these vicissitudes among mankind so that God may know the true believers and choose martyrs from among you (God does not love the evil-doers); and that God may test the faithful and annihilate the infidels" (3:140).

"Believers, if you yield to the infidels they will drag you back to unbelief and you will return headlong to perdition. . . .We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. . . . The Fire shall be their home" (3:149-51).

"Believers, do not follow the example of the infidels, who say of their brothers when they meet death abroad or in battle: ‘Had they stayed with us they would not have died, nor would they have been killed.' God will cause them to regret their words. . . . If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, God's forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches they amass" (3:156).

Its easy to see how terrorists get their ideas from that. So I would say that being an atheist would be much better for the world than believing that nonbelievers are nonentities.

[flouran]

Originally Posted by Mini-Geek

It's not hard to see that there are fewer walls standing between an atheist rationalizing murder than a Christian rationalizing murder.

You're producing an assertion that is not grounded in much substantive evidence. Before making such claims, please find and present some evidence towards these claims. You're still young, and you have MUCH to learn.

[Joshua2]

Originally Posted by flouran

You're producing an assertion that is not grounded in much substantive evidence. Before making such claims, please find and present some evidence towards these claims. You're still young, and you have MUCH to learn.

He did give some evidence, but his assertion buts more guarantee than it deserves. All you can say is that it would seem to be more likely than not without more evidence.
However you did not provide any evidence to the contrary besides saying basically I'm older than you and I don't think so and my opinion is better.

[flouran]

Originally Posted by Joshua2

He did give some evidence, but his assertion buts more guarantee than it deserves. All you can say is that it would seem to be more likely than not without more evidence.
However you did not provide any evidence to the contrary besides saying basically I'm older than you and I don't think so and my opinion is better.

I never said that I thought my opinion was better. In fact, I was not even arguing against him (nor was I attempting to provide a counter-argument in any way, shape, or form); all I did was provide a helpful suggestion for him to improve his argument! Please re-read my post if you would like...

Moreover, I was not necessarily making a reference to me being older than Mini-Geek, I was simply making the observation that he was young, and hence most likely has much to learn before producing primarily unfounded assertions.

[Joshua2]

my bad, it didn't sound quite that way when I read it but I believe you. I'm prob just tired. Nite all L)

[cheesehead]

Originally Posted by xilman

This thread is to collect all the off-topic dross about speeling and grammer which tends to appear in threads purporting to discuss serious topics.

[cmd]

@David,

surely you great right arm,
we deduced from the number of posts that have allowed you to
write.

Perhaps it now that we take a drink ?!

[davieddy]

Originally Posted by cmd

@David,

surely you great right arm,
we deduced from the number of posts that have allowed you to
write.

Perhaps it now that we take a drink ?!

Attempted interpretation:

"I don't know how a wanker like you has been allowed
to post so much bollocks.
Cheers!"

If you know any Hebrew, you may be the ideal person
to clarify Blob's thread currently in the "math" forum

David

[retina]

Originally Posted by davieddy

Attempted interpretation:

"I don't know how a wanker like you has been allowed
to post so much bollocks.
Cheers!"

I like this interpretation. Can you please interpret for me all of my "English" instruction manuals for the stuff I have bought that was made in China/Taiwan?