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Germany
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i found many k's done by T.Ritschel some years ago with the note, the range from n=200k-350k were done by him. but i found many missing pairs in this range. so if we don't test any non-Top5000 prime as prime, we are not sure about it! those are first-time testings without any old results to compare. |
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#244 | |
Mar 2006
Germany
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- post in news with link to separate thread - own thread for these script, to collect suggestions/issues/notes/meanings/... |
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A Sunny Moo
Aug 2007
USA (GMT-5)
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#246 |
"Gary"
May 2007
Overland Park, KS
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OK, thanks Max. That makes sense to me now about verifying all non-top-5000 primes. Actually, I think I did that in the past for k<2000; at least for n<200K. But I didn't do it for k=2000-3000 for n=50K-250K. Good idea Karsten.
I had thought about what you guys said here a little late last night and today. I agree now. It makes sense to give it good visibility. Good thinking there. I like the idea of posting it in the news with a link to its own thread. There's enough in the "LLRnet servers for NPLB thread" already. The new "Updated/improved (or whatever) LLRnet client" thread can be used as both a question/answer thread as well as for large-scale beta testing with associated issues ironed out. Assuming the Linux README has been tweaked as per the previous issues and Max has reviewed Karsten's documentation for grammar/English and made any appropriate changes, do it! Exciting times lie ahead! Karsten, once again, thank you for a great idea! Your original design really only needed a small amount of modifications from the time that you conceived of it. Max, once again, thank you for quickly converting Karsten's Windows logic into a very workable Linux client that also only needed small modifications to make it work completely correctly. The original concept and design on both sides was excellent to start with and when that happens, it usually makes for relatively easy testing and good software at the end. As many issues as we found, they were really very small ones. This was a smashing success in just a month and now we have something that we'll be able to use for years to come! ![]() It even deserves a few of my favorite dancing Georges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Let's rock! Gary Last fiddled with by gd_barnes on 2010-03-12 at 21:36 |
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#247 |
Mar 2006
Germany
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ok then.
which title for the script-thread? "(NPLB's version of) LLRnet with LLR V3.8"? "The Raiders Ark is here: LLRnet supports LLR V3.8!" "A new Dimension in Prime-Hunting: LLRnet combined with LLR V3.8" any others? |
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#248 |
"Gary"
May 2007
Overland Park, KS
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Just a note for you guys:
Weekends on business trips are insanely busy for me. I'll likely only make it on to answer pressing questions in the forums and in Email and to report primes; perhaps for a half-hour at most. I will be back late Monday but have some family matters to tend to. By Tuesday, I'll be back in full swing of the projects. I kind of had to "pay the piper" finally for spending 3-4 hours/day on the projects almost non-stop for the month before I left and this busy time is my payment. lol Unfortunately I'm not retired just yet but I know I'll stay busy when I am. :-) Either one of you, if you can help answering any others questions or anything else adminstratively on the proejcts at this time, that would be greatly helpful. Max, you might keep an eye on the public and private servers. I think you usually do anyway. It appears that port 6000 will need loading up before Monday. Thanks again guys. Gary Last fiddled with by gd_barnes on 2010-03-12 at 21:42 |
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"Gary"
May 2007
Overland Park, KS
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One thing that I thought of: I wonder if the original design of LLRnet was the way it was for security reasons. In other words, was it "static" in its LLR version so that people could not easily "fake" primes? Well, they could but it wouldn't be as easy. So...for security reasons, I wonder if for a future release, there would be an easy way to make the Awk and Perl scripts into only an executable/binary for the client with no source code available for them? That way, it would take some serious effort for someone to reverse-engineer it back to the source code and change the code in order to fake results and/or primes or non-primes. Gary |
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#250 | |
Mar 2006
Germany
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i've found a batch-script 'compiler' but not tested it yet (it makes in WIN-Dos a *.com from a batch file). OTOH i even don't know why there's a llrnet.exe (with LLRV3.5 included/compiled) but there exists the *.lua files also! perhaps all could be compiled in one exe!? so i will create that new thread the next hour (with note in News, too). the name could be changed later if we find a better one! i take the last links of the downloads: 2 from Max and the one from me. could be changed later, too! Last fiddled with by kar_bon on 2010-03-12 at 21:55 |
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"Gary"
May 2007
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Mar 2006
Germany
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A Sunny Moo
Aug 2007
USA (GMT-5)
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I don't think we need to worry about "statifying" the program to make it more secure. That's not really a particularly big deal and it defeats the whole purpose of making the application modular so that new LLR versions can be used. At any rate, if someone's really set on faking primes, they can do it with the old LLRnet client if they want. It might be a tad harder but not much so--I can think of a way right off the top of my head that would work and be reasonably easy. |
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