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Old 2006-02-04, 00:56   #1
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Default v5 PrimeNet alpha & beta testing

The server and hosting for the v5 system were arranged yesterday.

I'm going to take a chance at a schedule and say we are probably only a few months away from the testing and tuning phases, with initial production operations perhaps in May 2006.

We will need perhaps 25 alpha testers and about 200 beta testers. A test plan will be posted to coordinate each phase's test case activities. Alpha testers will need between 2 and 10 computers to link up on v5 PrimeNet.

More updates later.
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Old 2006-02-06, 14:58   #2
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Now that´s good news!
I volunteer to be a alpha and/or beta tester. Gimme a shout if you need help.
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Old 2006-02-06, 18:08   #3
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I would like in as well

i have 10 p4's and a few other comptuers at my disposial
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Old 2006-02-07, 09:25   #4
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We will need perhaps 25 alpha testers and about 200 beta testers.
150+ computers here. I can switch versions quickly on all of them.

A few specialities:
o Only fast machines with at least 1 GiB RAM collect new work and do P-1. After P-1 those exponents are sent to slower machines with less RAM for LL testing.
o Exponents < 25390000 which are between FFT boundaries where a PIII will do with a smaller FFT size than a P4 will be tested on PIIIs.

A couple of questions:
o Does the new server support moving exponents from one ComputerID to another in this fasion, or is there a way to request P-1 work separately?
o Does the new server support handing out trial factoring work to different levels? I'd like to use slow 32bit Pentium machines for factoring up to 2^64 and AMD64 beyond that, but this is hard to do cleanly with the old server.
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Old 2006-02-08, 02:01   #5
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o Does the new server support moving exponents from one ComputerID to another in this fasion, or is there a way to request P-1 work separately?
P-1 is a separate work type.

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o Does the new server support handing out trial factoring work to different levels? I'd like to use slow 32bit Pentium machines for factoring up to 2^64 and AMD64 beyond that, but this is hard to do cleanly with the old server.
TF work is sent out one-bit at a time. So far we have 2 TF work preferences:

LMH: big exponents to low limits. Good for your P3s.

Regular TF: For SSE2 machines server tries to give out TF work above 64 bits otherwise smallest available exponent is handed out.

It isn't too hard for us to add even more work preferences
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Old 2006-02-08, 03:31   #6
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A feature that would rock, that I recently saw in the Dimes client, is an interface where you can log into the server and choose what work to send to the various clients.

I can see several possibilities:

1) Change work type, or amount cached.
2) Send out specific work. (I do this all the time, and it takes forever.)
3) Remote upgrade.
4) Adjust prime.ini settings.

Just a thought.
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Old 2006-02-08, 04:32   #7
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very cool that would be useful for mass deployments as a service.
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Old 2006-02-08, 04:37   #8
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OK xyzzy, fess up. Why are you running a non-GIMPS client?

Some of the features you ask for (some ini settings and work preference) may be updated using forms on the server.

I'm not sure how useful it is to change proxy settings via the server. If the proxy settings have changed, then the client cannot reach the server to get the new settings.

No promises, but does anyone know of sample MFC or Linux C code to do client updates?
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Old 2006-02-08, 06:24   #9
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Originally Posted by Old man PrimeNet
The server and hosting for the v5 system were arranged yesterday.

I'm going to take a chance at a schedule and say we are probably only a few months away from the testing and tuning phases, with initial production operations perhaps in May 2006.

We will need perhaps 25 alpha testers and about 200 beta testers. A test plan will be posted to coordinate each phase's test case activities. Alpha testers will need between 2 and 10 computers to link up on v5 PrimeNet.

More updates later.
I'm up for it. I've got 3 pcs running Primenet, one of which is running two instances in parallel. I may have a fourth if I get my laptop working again.

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Old 2006-02-08, 11:47   #10
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Just some comments on how the transition to "real teams" should work. I was thinking about this last night and here is my proposal.

1) Current users who have NOT checked the Team box for their account should be transferred to normal user accounts in the new server.

2) Those accounts that are teams should automatically become new teams in the new system with all credit being preserved. At the start, all credit within the team will go to the pseudo-user who has the same name as the team. Then we can work out a system by which the team leader can petition to have the credit moved to other accounts within the team. Of course, the individual user accounts will have to be created and join the team before credit can be transferred to them within the team. The transferred credit will be subtracted from the pseudo-account to make sure the team total is not affected by intra-team transfers.

This is easy to do for teams like TPR since we already have a good stats system. Other teams will have to come up with a mutually agreeable way to divide credit. Also, we can either provide a web interface for the team owner to make these changes or allow the team owner to send a one-time email from his email account that was registered on Primenet and have a script to perform the above actions.

I don't really know how individual machine credits will work out in this scenario. Maybe we can give the individual users to shift credit from pseudo-machine in a similar way.

What do you think?
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Old 2006-02-08, 12:53   #11
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This sounds very good -- sign me up for alpha and/or beta testing!
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