More bother

paulunderwood · 2018-04-03, 15:42

My main desktop computer started playing up. It began last summer with it being difficult to boot. Then a few days ago I had similar problems, but worse. After an update from Debian today it just would not boot. The symptoms were random instability and when I finally got to Grub I got immediate kernel panics. The BIOS would not register voltage changes nor things like XMP, even after a flash to the latest BIOS. I tried removing the battery temporarily. I switched PSUs. All no go. In the end I ordered a new motherboard for my Haswell, but it being a H81 chipset I am not sure I will get the most out of my 2400MHz DDR3.

Mark Rose · 2018-04-03, 15:57

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Originally Posted by paulunderwood

My main desktop computer started playing up. It began last summer with it being difficult to boot. Then a few days ago I had similar problems, but worse. After an update from Debian today it just would not boot. The symptoms were random instability and when I finally got to Grub I got immediate kernel panics. The BIOS would not register voltage changes nor things like XMP, even after a flash to the latest BIOS. I tried removing the battery temporarily. I switched PSUs. All no go. In the end I ordered a new motherboard for my Haswell, but it being a H81 chipset I am not sure I will get the most out of my 2400MHz DDR3.

You'll be capped at DDR3-1600. Z87/97 boards are getting rare.

paulunderwood · 2018-04-04, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Mark Rose

You'll be capped at DDR3-1600. Z87/97 boards are getting rare.

I canceled my order for an H81 board and ordered a Z87 instead

paulunderwood · 2018-04-05, 22:44

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Originally Posted by paulunderwood

I canceled my order for an H81 board and ordered a Z87 instead

I cancelled the Z87 board too. I took out the processor and put it back in and it works! It must have been a contraction-expansion problem.

kladner · 2018-04-06, 01:25

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Originally Posted by paulunderwood

I cancelled the Z87 board too. I took out the processor and put it back in and it works! It must have been a contraction-expansion problem.

It is always good to hear of a simple fix! Kudos!

paulunderwood · 2018-06-21, 12:01

My Haswell system started playing up again after a scheduled shutdown. Same old symptoms -- there was rarely a signal to the video and the BIOS would not allow me to retain any settings, apart from date and time. This time I replaced the motherboard's battery and that made all the difference.

paulunderwood · 2018-11-21, 13:19

My dodgy Haswell+MSI board would not boot after a debian update. It was set for reclamation until this morning when I tried a nvidia 710 in it and hey presto it is back doing useful crunching. However, I wonder if the defective board will ruin the graphics card

NookieN · 2018-11-21, 15:57

Were you using Intel gfx before, or a different gfx card?

paulunderwood · 2018-11-21, 16:36

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Originally Posted by NookieN

Were you using Intel gfx before, or a different gfx card?

I was using the onboard intel graphics. The last symptoms before I put in the pcie card was no video signal but the keyboard responded to ctrl+alt+del. Even now it is not remembering its BIOS settings, apart from date.

paulunderwood · 2018-11-29, 17:52

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Originally Posted by paulunderwood

I was using the onboard intel graphics. The last symptoms before I put in the pcie card was no video signal but the keyboard responded to ctrl+alt+del. Even now it is not remembering its BIOS settings, apart from date.

I finally got the board working 100% after another Debian update forced a reboot, which would get to GRUB, but panicked the kernel. With the battery in I shorted the clear CMOS jumpers for 10 seconds. Now I can set the RAM to 2400MHz.

paulunderwood · 2019-01-30, 13:46

The MSI board finally gave up the ghost -- after a necessary software update reboot process -- and I replaced it with a Asus Q87 chipset one. Unfortunately, I can get the 2400MHz RAM working only at 1333MHz. Hopefully my troubles are over for a while and I can get on with crunching some prime candidates

2018-04-03, 15:42	#1
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 6713₈ Posts	More bother My main desktop computer started playing up. It began last summer with it being difficult to boot. Then a few days ago I had similar problems, but worse. After an update from Debian today it just would not boot. The symptoms were random instability and when I finally got to Grub I got immediate kernel panics. The BIOS would not register voltage changes nor things like XMP, even after a flash to the latest BIOS. I tried removing the battery temporarily. I switched PSUs. All no go. In the end I ordered a new motherboard for my Haswell, but it being a H81 chipset I am not sure I will get the most out of my 2400MHz DDR3. Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 2018-04-03 at 15:42

2018-06-21, 12:01	#6
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 6713₈ Posts	My Haswell system started playing up again after a scheduled shutdown. Same old symptoms -- there was rarely a signal to the video and the BIOS would not allow me to retain any settings, apart from date and time. This time I replaced the motherboard's battery and that made all the difference. Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 2018-06-21 at 12:02

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paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr DCB₁₆ Posts	The MSI board finally gave up the ghost -- after a necessary software update reboot process -- and I replaced it with a Asus Q87 chipset one. Unfortunately, I can get the 2400MHz RAM working only at 1333MHz. Hopefully my troubles are over for a while and I can get on with crunching some prime candidates