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 2015-04-08, 18:31 #1 badbud65   Apr 2015 17 Posts Various and Constant BSOD's. Various and Constant BSOD's. Relevant Files here: Minidump and DxDiag Files available from Dropbox All components are new as detailed below: CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 140XL 122.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveMSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Red) ATX Full Tower Case Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) Case Fan: Corsair Air Series Purple 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan Case Fan: Corsair Air Series Purple 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan Since day 1 I've had problems with BSOD's, My initial investigation's lead down the routes of un-installing Avast and then running memtest86/64. When I run memtest64 in windows it produces errors, I believe this is due to using all available memory and getting into a deadlock state. When I run memtest86 off a USB drive no errors are reported. I've left it running for 10 passes, no errors found. I believe this is the better memtest to run, unless advised differently. However I bought an identical set of memory and have tried them and still I'm getting random BSODs. I'v tried each of the four sticks in each of the four slots available, I'm still getting BSOD's In Slot Two and Four together and Slot 1 and 3 together. I've tried with each of 4 sticks in all 4 slots. However the more I've investigated the less I think it's Memory, I as certain as you can be that it's not memory. I have re-installed my system 4 times, fully updated Win7 with all patch's, only used manufacturer drivers for the Motherboard. I haven't Overclocked anything, everything is running with default settings. Although the CPU is running at 3.7 GHz instead of the stock 3.5. Bios for the motherboard hasn't been updated as it's the current version 1.9. I have run sfc.exe /scannow and no problems were reported. I've set "verifier" and no driver issues reported I've Breadboarded and stripped the whole thing down to only crucial parts required to get Win7 to load and I'm still getting BSOD's. I haven't connected USB 2/3 Cables or Sound cables. Only cables connected are power to motherboard and JFP1 System Panel connectors and the stock CPU fan cable. I've examined the motherboard back and front and I haven't noticed anything that looks out of the ordinary. CPU has been taken out cleaned, pins in the socket appear undamaged. I've set it back up with new Thermal Compound. Temperatures haven't been a problem. Please advise how I can go about determining what is the root cause of my problem. Prime Blend Test produced one error within 5 minutes, I stopped the test and rebooted and started it again, no error seen for the last 30 minutes. Code: [Wed Apr 08 18:31:49 2015] Self-test 12K passed! FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4 Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file. BSOD'S in this Order: Code: SPECIAL_POOL_DETECTED_MEMORY_CORRUPTION PAGE_FAULT_BEYOND_END_OF_ALLOCATION BAD_POOL_HEADER IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM BAD_POOL_HEADER SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION BAD_POOL_HEADER MEMORY_MANAGEMENT SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
 2015-04-08, 18:43 #2 paulunderwood     Sep 2002 Database er0rr 24·229 Posts Maybe you need a beefier PSU
2015-04-08, 19:00   #3

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PSU is well within limits, even with the GFX card installed, it isn't installed at the moment though.

So unless the PSU is actually faulty then it's not the PSU.

I'm trying to determine where the fault is, hardware or drivers.

PSU at this time is an unlikely candidate, unless you can provide a more specific reason why you say

Quote:
 Originally Posted by paulunderwood Maybe you need a beefier PSU
That's not related to Wattage Bias.

Prime Failures and a BSOD

[Wed Apr 08 19:50:15 2015]
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 4.460210523e+285, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Self-test 896K passed!
Self-test 32K passed!
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 2.173430923e+189, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.

 2015-04-08, 19:25 #4 paulunderwood     Sep 2002 Database er0rr 24×229 Posts WITH WARNING, you might have to bump up you CPU voltage a little and retest.
 2015-04-08, 20:11 #5 Prime95 P90 years forever!     Aug 2002 Yeehaw, FL 3×5×499 Posts If small FFT torture works and blend fails, then it is likely a memory (or memory controller) problem. Otherwise, CPU voltage is a reasonable guess.
2015-04-08, 21:49   #6
TheMawn

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by badbud65 FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 4.460210523e+285, expected less than 0.4 FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 2.173430923e+189, expected less than 0.4
Um..... 4.46 x 10285 is notably larger than 0.4.

Crank up the voltage some. Run Prime95 within your capacity to do so and stay under 80C as much as possible. That platform overclocks into the 1.2V - 1.3V range so you can go pretty high and then just bring it down to reasonable levels later. If you STILL fail with voltage that high, then you're almost assuredly looking at bad hardware.

 2015-04-08, 23:15 #7 Mark Rose     "/X\(‘-‘)/X\" Jan 2013 3×977 Posts Memtest from USB is probably running Linux. It's quite possible that the two operating systems are configuring the hardware differently. I would try disabling the various extensions/options/hardware in the BIOS and see if the problem goes away.
2015-04-09, 00:29   #8
Prime95
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Mark Rose Memtest from USB
Unless you are running a multi-threaded memtest you are not coming remotely close to stressing the memory bandwidth of a Haswell chip. Prime95 blend test will max out your memory bandwidth. Last I looked, two years ago, multi-threaded memtest had bugs that made it unusable.

2015-04-09, 01:46   #9
TheMawn

May 2013
East. Always East.

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Prime95 Unless you are running a multi-threaded memtest you are not coming remotely close to stressing the memory bandwidth of a Haswell chip. Prime95 blend test will max out your memory bandwidth. Last I looked, two years ago, multi-threaded memtest had bugs that made it unusable.
I was on that website a while back to grab a copy of it for some testing. I didn't use the multi-threaded one but I recall seeing something about fixes.

Memtest86+ will find physical problems on the DIMMs not related to memory bandwidth by virtue of testing all but a few KB of the stick whereas anything running in Windows has to be assigned to the specific bad sector and then have that fault become relevant (hence the random Windows BSOD's vs. hours of stability in a stress test or a game or whatever).

If the memory controller is just not stable enough, then George is correct: Prime95 is a better tool. There's just the AVX scare.

 2015-04-09, 03:36 #10 LaurV Romulan Interpreter     Jun 2011 Thailand 24E016 Posts Memtest working from stick but not from disk smells fishy, and there is no hardware reason to be so. I know a couple of viruses who do that. Ever played with or installed something called "Protect search"? (don't!) Any non-normal activity when you open a browser? (like more ads than usual, home page changed, default search engine changed?) Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2015-04-09 at 03:37
2015-04-09, 04:28   #11
Mark Rose

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Prime95 Unless you are running a multi-threaded memtest you are not coming remotely close to stressing the memory bandwidth of a Haswell chip. Prime95 blend test will max out your memory bandwidth. Last I looked, two years ago, multi-threaded memtest had bugs that made it unusable.
Good to know!

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