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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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What is the fastest path from point A to point B?
* Hint 1: It's rarely the shortest path. Don't Google unless you give up. If you do, please do not spoil the puzzle. * Hint 2: Galileo mistakenly thought it was an arc. Last fiddled with by a1call on 2016-03-20 at 23:42 |
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If I May
"Chris Halsall"
Sep 2002
Barbados
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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![]() Think Gravity-Assist (but not of space exploration kind). Last fiddled with by a1call on 2016-03-21 at 00:01 |
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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Hints:
* It is indeed a curved path but it's not an arc * The path is related to a rolling wheel |
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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Spoiler alert, I guess it took long enough.
Here are the answers: It's a Cycloyd: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycloid[/URL] [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachistochrone_curve[/URL] |
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Undefined
"The unspeakable one"
Jun 2006
My evil lair
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Fastest for whom?
If person T travels at near c, and person S remains stationary and observes T, then is the fastest path the same for both T and S? Or would T decide upon a different path than S? Would it depend upon the position of S relative to the travel vector of T, or the positions of A and B relative to T and/or S, or some other combination? |
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Bamboozled!
"πΊππ·π·π"
May 2003
Down not across
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Underspecified problem. You don't put any conditions on the traveller, A, B, any fields existing in their neighbourhood nor the geometry of the latter.
The fastest path for a photon between two points in flat spacetime, one in air and the other in water and where the line AB is not perpendicular to the surface is two straight line segments. That's an extremely good approximation indeed. |
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
Remote to Here/There
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Here is are follow up problems:
* Points AB have an aligned distance of 4176.3 m * Straight line AB is inclined 1Β° relative to horizontal ** Disregarding friction and drag How long would it take a ball to roll from A to B along a straight path with an initial speed of 0 (I know this answer) ** Disregarding friction and drag How long would it take a ball to roll from A to B along a downward cycloid path with an initial speed of 0 (I don't know this answer) This might help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautochrone_curve Last fiddled with by a1call on 2016-03-22 at 02:05 |
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"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
Dumbassville
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Last fiddled with by science_man_88 on 2016-03-22 at 02:37 |
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"Rashid Naimi"
Oct 2015
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Along a curved right-left symmetrical path (destination tip trimmed, not withstanding) the ball would accelerate nonlinearly all the way down and decelerate all the way up with the time required to reach the bottom being equal to the time required to reach the top. Speed of light is irrelevant, this is a classical mechanical problem. Last fiddled with by a1call on 2016-03-22 at 03:12 |
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