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 Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read 2020-02-23, 17:31 #1 wildrabbitt   Jul 2014 6778 Posts something I don't understand to do with Dirichlets theorem Hi, the following is something I've been reading. He started from the power series $$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \big(\frac{n}{q}\big)x^n=\frac{1}{1-x^q}\sum_{m=1}^{q-1}\big(\frac{m}{q}\big)x^m=\frac{xf(x)}{1-x^q}$$ say, and by putting this in the formula $$\Gamma(s)n^{-1}=\int_0^1 x^{n-1}(\log x^{-1})^{s-1} \mathrm{d}x$$ he obtained $$\Gamma(s)L(s)=-\int_0^1\frac{f(x)}{x^q-1}(\log x^{-1})^{s-1}\mathrm{d}x$$ I'm stuck because I can't see how he put what he put in the formula. Can anyone explain it step by step? Last fiddled with by wildrabbitt on 2020-02-23 at 17:32   2020-02-23, 20:17   #2
R.D. Silverman

Nov 2003

26×113 Posts Quote:
 Originally Posted by wildrabbitt Hi, the following is something I've been reading. He started from the power series $$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \big(\frac{n}{q}\big)x^n=\frac{1}{1-x^q}\sum_{m=1}^{q-1}\big(\frac{m}{q}\big)x^m=\frac{xf(x)}{1-x^q}$$ say, and by putting this in the formula $$\Gamma(s)n^{-1}=\int_0^1 x^{n-1}(\log x^{-1})^{s-1} \mathrm{d}x$$ he obtained $$\Gamma(s)L(s)=-\int_0^1\frac{f(x)}{x^q-1}(\log x^{-1})^{s-1}\mathrm{d}x$$ I'm stuck because I can't see how he put what he put in the formula. Can anyone explain it step by step?
I am getting "math processing error". Your post is not being parsed correctly.   2020-02-23, 23:58   #3
Dr Sardonicus

Feb 2017
Nowhere

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 Originally Posted by wildrabbitt Hi, the following is something I've been reading. He started from the power series say, and by putting this in the formula he obtained I'm stuck because I can't see how he put what he put in the formula. Can anyone explain it step by step?
I took the liberty of TEXing your equations. That makes them a whole lot easier to read, for me at least. You can probably drop the big parens.

Is that supposed to be (log(x)-1^(s-1)? That would be log(x)1-s, yes?   2020-02-24, 07:52 #4 wildrabbitt   Jul 2014 6778 Posts I just wrote what was written in the book. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be $$\log \frac{1}{x}$$ otherwise it would have been written the way you wrote.   2020-02-24, 09:51 #5 wildrabbitt   Jul 2014 3×149 Posts clarification I aught to mention that $$L(s)=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\big(\frac{n}{q}\big)n^{-s}$$ for which $$\big(\frac{n}{q}\big)$$ is the Legendre symbol as is it is the first post. Don't know what to do if my latex is not parsing correctly. It comes out right when I preview the post. I can give more info if necessary. Last fiddled with by wildrabbitt on 2020-02-24 at 09:52   2020-02-24, 12:49   #6
Dr Sardonicus

Feb 2017
Nowhere

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 Originally Posted by wildrabbitt I just wrote what was written in the book. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be $$\log \frac{1}{x}$$ otherwise it would have been written the way you wrote.
Ah, log(1/x), not 1/log(x). OK, now I see a Gamma-function integral in prospect in your second equation. (x = exp-u, scribble scribble, u = t/n, scribble scribble...)

Your second equation is wrong. It should be

(It is n-s on the left side, not n-1)   2020-02-24, 20:40 #7 wildrabbitt   Jul 2014 3×149 Posts Thanks. Are you substituting $$e^{-u}$$ for $$x$$ ? What are you doin with $$u$$? Also, in case there's an obvious remedy to my latex not parsing properly, here's an example of what I wrote in the first post without the \$$and \$$. \sum_{n=1}^\infty \big(\frac{n}{q}\big)x^n=\frac{1}{1-x^q}\sum_{m=1}^{q-1}\big(\frac{m}{q}\big)x^m=\frac{xf(x)}{1-x^q} Last fiddled with by wildrabbitt on 2020-02-24 at 20:44 Reason: needed to access page source   2020-02-25, 08:21   #8
Nick

Dec 2012
The Netherlands

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 Originally Posted by wildrabbitt Also, in case there's an obvious remedy to my latex not parsing properly, here's an example of what I wrote in the first post without the \$$and \$$. \sum_{n=1}^\infty \big(\frac{n}{q}\big)x^n=\frac{1}{1-x^q}\sum_{m=1}^{q-1}\big(\frac{m}{q}\big)x^m=\frac{xf(x)}{1-x^q}
LaTeX: just put backslash then open-square-bracket before it, and backslash then close-square-bracket afterwards:

$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \big(\frac{n}{q}\big)x^n=\frac{1}{1-x^q}\sum_{m=1}^{q-1}\big(\frac{m}{q}\big)x^m=\frac{xf(x)}{1-x^q}$   2020-02-25, 13:32   #9
Dr Sardonicus

Feb 2017
Nowhere

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 Originally Posted by wildrabbitt Thanks. Are you substituting $$e^{-u}$$ for $$x$$ ? What are you doin with $$u$$? Also, in case there's an obvious remedy to my latex not parsing properly, here's an example of what I wrote in the first post without the \$$and \$$.
My problem with LaTex in posts is mine alone. Viewing on other computers, everything looks OK. The fact that everything looked OK on my system when I simply slapped tex tags around the equations says the expressions parse OK.

If you don't know how to make substitutions in integrals, it's high time you learn. Unfortunately, I'm probably not the one to teach you.   2020-02-25, 17:01 #10 wildrabbitt   Jul 2014 3×149 Posts I didn't really get the answer I was hoping for so I thought I'd just ask the first things that it occurred to me to ask. I do know how to make substitutions in integrals I just wasn't sure if that's what you were doing and it looked like you were making two substitutions. Thanks though. So you're substiting for x. I don't know what you're doing with u.  Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page Similar Threads Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post Godzilla Miscellaneous Math 5 2019-03-12 09:34 fivemack Msieve 4 2012-10-29 11:26 Flatlander Lounge 2 2010-10-10 14:30 John S Software 22 2008-11-10 21:20 kuratkull Sierpinski/Riesel Base 5 2 2007-03-12 21:02

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