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2018-02-06, 00:42   #1409
Syntony

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Sep 2014
London, UK

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list of all known Mersenne PRPs - Quirk

Quote:
 Originally Posted by James Heinrich And on the above page, if you click the last-factor placeholder (e.g. "P-105") it will display the decimal representation of the actual factor, should you be so inclined.
A quirk - the 'hide decimal representation' seems to be displayed only up to M3,464,473, but beyond that (M4,187,251 and up), the 'hide decimal representation' link disappears once the decimal representation appears...

(In Firefox 57.0.3 64-bit at least)

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2018-02-06, 01:35   #1410
James Heinrich

"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Syntony A quirk - the 'hide decimal representation' seems to be displayed only up to M3,464,473, but beyond that (M4,187,251 and up), the 'hide decimal representation' link disappears once the decimal representation appears... (In Firefox 57.0.3 64-bit at least)
My Firefox is v58.0.1 64-bit (on Windows 7) and everything appears to be working as expected.
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2018-02-06, 04:05   #1411
Syntony

"Tony"
Sep 2014
London, UK

71 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by James Heinrich My Firefox is v58.0.1 64-bit (on Windows 7) and everything appears to be working as expected.
You're right James, seems to be a Firefox glitch - I should have checked for that

 2018-02-08, 09:41 #1412 retina Undefined     "The unspeakable one" Jun 2006 My evil lair 26×7×13 Posts The hourly report shows two untested numbers in 49M range. PrimeNet Activity Summary 2018-02-08 09:00 UTC Code:  Exponent Range | Composite | Status Unproven | Assigned | Available | Start Count P | F LL-D | LL LLERR NO-LL | TF P-1 LL LL-D | TF P-1 LL LL-D | ----------=-----=-- | -----=-----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- | 49000000 56603 | 36470 4221 15910 2 | 400 11094 | 4416 | How did that happen?
2018-02-08, 20:36   #1413
Madpoo
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Jul 2014

29×113 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by retina The hourly report shows two untested numbers in 49M range. PrimeNet Activity Summary 2018-02-08 09:00 UTC Code:  Exponent Range | Composite | Status Unproven | Assigned | Available | Start Count P | F LL-D | LL LLERR NO-LL | TF P-1 LL LL-D | TF P-1 LL LL-D | ----------=-----=-- | -----=-----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- | -----=-----=-----=----- | 49000000 56603 | 36470 4221 15910 2 | 400 11094 | 4416 | How did that happen?
That's weird. They're not there now... I wonder which 2 they were. Anything in that range that would have been marked "suspect" would have been re-tested long ago and that's the only thing I could think of off the top of my head.

Well, I guess put a pin in that and if it happens again we'll see what we can see.

 2018-02-09, 06:21 #1414 S485122     Sep 2006 Brussels, Belgium 5×317 Posts The active assignment page has a problem : if one excludes double-check assignments the other type of assignments are excluded as well (TF, P-1...) See f.i. https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...00000&exdchk=1, 76 P-1 assignments should be shown and you see them if you uncheck the exclude double-checks.. Perhaps the PRP checks and double-checks could be made separate exclusion categories ? Jacob Last fiddled with by S485122 on 2018-02-09 at 06:22 Reason: separate PRP...
2018-02-09, 07:31   #1415
retina
Undefined

"The unspeakable one"
Jun 2006
My evil lair

26·7·13 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Madpoo That's weird. They're not there now... I wonder which 2 they were.
I don't know which two. I don't know of any way us mere mortals can find which exponents don't have any current assignment combined with no LL so I couldn't find which exponents they were.

2018-02-10, 07:15   #1416
Madpoo
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by retina I don't know which two. I don't know of any way us mere mortals can find which exponents don't have any current assignment combined with no LL so I couldn't find which exponents they were.
I think it might be PRP assignments in those ranges being *prp* tested for the first time. I saw an unusual thing with the 49M range showing a first-time check, and I think that's what it was, someone doing a PRP check in there.

Yeah... the PRP tests are definitely causing some funny reporting results and it's more complicated when you consider that an exponent can be LL and PRP tested without any verification of either (which is a waste), or someone doing unnecessary PRP tests on verified exponents (?) or other funny situations. All of those are probably going to cause strange results.

The only option for any kind of quick fix is to have separate reports... one for LL, one for PRP, but that's not really going to be useful since we care about exponents and which are composite or prime. The method by which that is done shouldn't be important, but there's just a lot of work to get a new thing added to reports in some useful way that doesn't break things.

Bear with us... it'll be sorted out eventually but I know for me it's kind of a "spare time" thing since it's a non-critical thing.

2018-02-16, 05:55   #1417
S485122

Sep 2006
Brussels, Belgium

5×317 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by S485122 The active assignment page has a problem : if one excludes double-check assignments the other type of assignments are excluded as well (TF, P-1...) See f.i. https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...00000&exdchk=1, 76 P-1 assignments should be shown and you see them if you uncheck the exclude double-checks.. ...
Funny thing is that the problem seems to occur only in the 40M to 50M range.

Jacob

2018-02-17, 08:29   #1418
Madpoo
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by S485122 Funny thing is that the problem seems to occur only in the 40M to 50M range. Jacob
I dunno... right now it's showing an "LL" assignment in the 60e6 - 61e6 range, and that's because of this PRP assignment someone decided to do:
M60004433

I don't know why someone did a first PRP check and then someone doing a second one, when there was already a first-time LL done and waiting to be verified, but... whatever.

In a sense, it could be argued that, yes, that exponent is currently assigned for a first-time check. A first time *PRP* check. So the report is correct.

2018-02-17, 09:33   #1419
S485122

Sep 2006
Brussels, Belgium

5·317 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by S485122 Funny thing is that the problem seems to occur only in the 40M to 50M range. Jacob
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Madpoo ... In a sense, it could be argued that, yes, that exponent is currently assigned for a first-time check. A first time *PRP* check. So the report is correct.
I was speaking about another problem : when one looks at the active assignments in 40M range, the TF, PM-1 assignments will only be shown if one does NOT exclude the double-checks.
https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...00000&exdchk=1 : about 150 P-1 assignments (at the time of writing) should be shown, but you see them only if you uncheck the exclude double-checks https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...xp_hi=47000000.

Jacob

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