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2020-09-09, 05:53   #254
Mark Rose

"/X\(‘-‘)/X\"
Jan 2013

1011001111002 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Prime95 Aha - a bug.
I'm glad I decided to test a low disk space situation.

Quote:
 Now the only unexplained phenomenon is the work preference changing.
I've never had that one happen to me before. Considering mprime started doing PRP assignments immediately after the LLDC work finished, it probably already had a modified configuration beforehand when it fetched assignments. I had been running benchmarks, and control-c'ed out of them, so that may be the place to look?

I am certain I left mprime set to do LLDC because I figured others would be testing the new PRP hotness and thought someone should test the old.

 2020-09-09, 08:03 #255 stippix   Apr 2004 2·7 Posts Hi, FYI and just for fun, 32-bit linux version works fine for my very, very old 32-bit machines (Athlon XPs ;) using ubuntu-mate 16.04 and Linux Mint Mate 19.2, but 32-bit Windows version 30.3beta4 and beta5 does not start on Windows XP and Windows 7, greetings.
2020-09-09, 10:25   #256
James Heinrich

"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario

1100001101102 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by stippix 32-bit Windows version 30.3beta4 and beta5 does not start on Windows XP and Windows 7
I can confirm that p95v303b5.win32 crashes on startup on Win7-64:
Code:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
Application Name:	prime95.exe
Application Version:	30.3.1.0
Application Timestamp:	5f56f582
Fault Module Name:	libhwloc-15.dll
Fault Module Version:	0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp:	5ab8b310
Exception Code:	c0000005
Exception Offset:	00007837
OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID:	1033
Additional Information 4:	0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

 2020-09-09, 16:42 #257 James Heinrich     "James Heinrich" May 2004 ex-Northern Ontario 60668 Posts Something odd with the Test > Status... dialog. I realize that Prime95 will attempt to do Cert work first and therefore out-of-order compared to how it's shown here and in worktodo.txt but I don't understand why the ETA for all the Cert work is exactly the same. Bug? Attached Thumbnails
 2020-09-09, 17:59 #258 jwnutter   "Joe" Oct 2019 United States 1138 Posts A question and a comment related to v30.3 b4. Question: Can someone direct me to the HT options in v30.3 b4? For some reason I'm unable to find this menu in b4, but I recall seeing it during the initial setup. Comment: I recall someone had an issue with a missing check in the "get occasional proof certification work" field. I too had the same issue but caught the problem before I closed the worker window. My specific issue resulted from an errant mouse click at the bottom of the worker window. After a little investigation I found that the user can modify this checkbox by clicking up to (from left to right) approximately the red vertical line shown in the image below. Attached Thumbnails   Last fiddled with by jwnutter on 2020-09-09 at 18:01
2020-09-09, 18:09   #259
James Heinrich

"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario

1100001101102 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by jwnutter Can someone direct me to the HT options in v30.3 b4?
Test > Worker Windows... sets the number of workers, CPU cores to use (multithreading) in that dialog set the number of threads per worker.

The settings for actual hyperthreading is under Options > Resource Limits... > Advanced... > Use hyperthreading for ___ checkboxes at the bottom.
Note however that hyperthreading is explicitly not recommended (other than for TF, which itself is not recommended for CPUs):
Quote:
 Originally Posted by readme.txt Except for trial factoring, which is best left for GPUs to do, hyperthreading often offers no performance benefit while using more electricity. You can try test if hyperthreading speeds up your worker windows by selecting these options.

2020-09-09, 18:15   #260
jwnutter

"Joe"
Oct 2019
United States

3×52 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by James Heinrich The settings for actual hyperthreading is under Options > Resource Limits... > Advanced... > Use hyperthreading for ___ checkboxes at the bottom. Note however that hyperthreading is explicitly not recommended (other than for TF, which itself is not recommended for CPUs):
Thanks, James. I had overlooked the advanced button. And, understood on the HT/TF comment.

2020-09-09, 18:18   #261
Prime95
P90 years forever!

Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL

11011111000112 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by James Heinrich I can confirm that p95v303b5.win32 crashes on startup on Win7-64:
Hmm, old hwloc DLL. Try this one https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmw9nbb0ve...oc-15.dll?dl=0 or get it from the hwloc website: https://www.open-mpi.org/software/hwloc/v2.2/

Quote:
 Originally Posted by James Heinrich Something odd with the Test > Status... dialog. I realize that Prime95 will attempt to do Cert work first and therefore out-of-order compared to how it's shown here and in worktodo.txt but I don't understand why the ETA for all the Cert work is exactly the same. Bug?
I'll see if I can't to better for build 6.

2020-09-09, 18:19   #262
kriesel

"TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17"
Mar 2017
US midwest

41×113 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by James Heinrich The settings for actual hyperthreading is under Options > Resource Limits... > Advanced... > Use hyperthreading for ___ checkboxes at the bottom. Note however that hyperthreading is explicitly not recommended (other than for TF, which itself is not recommended for CPUs):
Hyperthreading in primality testing typically has a speed penalty. Rarely it will show an advantage. It seems to depend on fft length, processor model, and number of workers. Benchmark and know what's best for your own setup. The guidance seems to be a good general rule, and there are exceptions. Some examples: https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpo...18&postcount=4
https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpo...19&postcount=5

Last fiddled with by kriesel on 2020-09-09 at 18:19

2020-09-09, 18:26   #263
Prime95
P90 years forever!

Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL

112·59 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by jwnutter I found that the user can modify this checkbox by clicking up to (from left to right) approximately the red vertical line shown in the image below.
A new Windows annoyance! As a developer one must leave extra space after the text so that the text is not truncated when different system fonts are used (maybe not as much extra space as I allocated). MS also has an annoying habit of changing the system font with new Windows releases that can lead to dialog box text getting truncated.

2020-09-10, 06:20   #264
stippix

Apr 2004

E16 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Prime95 Hmm, old hwloc DLL. Try this one https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmw9nbb0ve...oc-15.dll?dl=0 or get it from the hwloc website: https://www.open-mpi.org/software/hwloc/v2.2/ I'll see if I can't to better for build 6.
Hi,
new libhwloc from their homepage solved the problem for beta 4 and 5,
greetings.