Prime95 v30.3 - Page 41

moebius · 2020-10-20, 15:04

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Originally Posted by Prime95

I've made 30.3 build 6 the official download version at mersenne.org!

Does anyone have statistics available, how many users already use a Prime95 / mprime / gpuowl version with proof generation. It seems to have improved a lot in the last month, but there are still many first-time LL tests and PRP tests without proofs, mostly from CPUs which could use a PRP-proof version without any problems.It is best, to be mean like Microsoft and force an update under duress (or even better under torture

) since the software does not have a notification or update option.

Uncwilly · 2020-10-20, 15:11

Your answer is here (somewhat):

https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=559472

rainchill · 2020-10-21, 14:20

Yep - I've brought up auto updates for years for it to only be treated like the worst idea anyone has ever heard. At some point all the old clients out there genuinely are counter productive.

At a minimum there should be a rule that the server does not hand out first time checks to clients older than ~2-3 years.

JuanTutors · 2020-10-21, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainchill

Yep - I've brought up auto updates for years for it to only be treated like the worst idea anyone has ever heard. At some point all the old clients out there genuinely are counter productive.

At a minimum there should be a rule that the server does not hand out first time checks to clients older than ~2-3 years.

I don't know about it being counter-productive, but there are a whole lot of options that seem to not be explored. For example, Primer connects to the internet and downloads information, so why not also allow it to get messages such as "a new update of Prime95 is available", etc?

kriesel · 2020-10-21, 18:33

An occasional check of current released version versus running version, such as at startup, would probably be ok, as long as it doesn't behave too obnoxiously or interfere with prime95 starting as a service, require user acknowledgement before running all workers, etc.
Something like, if the running version is not the latest on https://www.mersenne.org/download/, and the running version has internet access,

Code:

Current released version is Vxx.y, running version is Vww.v. Please upgrade if/when practical.

Of course this would only be effective for versions sometime after V30.3b6, as the older version, since the feature has not been included yet, so would not address the great majority still running V29.x or earlier, until those users can be persuaded to update, by other means.

rainchill · 2020-10-21, 18:43

You are correct. Moving forward, the sooner some type of upgrade alert feature can be included the better.

storm5510 · 2020-10-22, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by moebius

Does anyone have statistics available, how many users already use a Prime95 / mprime / gpuowl version with proof generation. It seems to have improved a lot in the last month, but there are still many first-time LL tests and PRP tests without proofs, mostly from CPUs which could use a PRP-proof version without any problems.It is best, to be mean like Microsoft and force an update under duress (or even better under torture

) since the software does not have a notification or update option.

The current flavor of Windows 10 does have a notification option. It simply has to be configured in the Automatic Update dialogs. I have it set to show a notice when a restart is needed. This way, I can properly shut-down any running processes, then allow it to proceed.

James Heinrich · 2020-10-22, 01:09

I think the reference was more to the fact that unless you try really hard, Windows no longer lets you not install updates (maybe not this second, or even today, but sooner or later "you will comply").

kladner · 2020-10-23, 05:00

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Originally Posted by James Heinrich

I think the reference was more to the fact that unless you try really hard, Windows no longer lets you not install updates (maybe not this second, or even today, but sooner or later "you will comply").

I just recently resolve an issue with Updates which failed installation repeatedly, causing one reboot on install, and two reboots on the automatic rollback. I kept Update paused for weeks at a time. In the last day or two I searched more carefully and found a script online which flushed caches and reset things. This resolved the update loop at last.
However, I came to this thread to post a link to a report I first dropped in the Server Problems thread. On reflection, it is probably better off here.
https://mersenneforum.org/showpost.p...postcount=2014
WTF. Here's the post:
On one of my Win 10 64 bit machines I get this error if Cert is checked:
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[Sun Oct 18 15:25:53 2020]
Error getting CERT starting value.
[Sun Oct 18 16:25:53 2020]
Error getting CERT starting value.
[Sun Oct 18 17:25:53 2020]
Error getting CERT starting value.
[Sun Oct 18 18:05:58 2020]
Error getting CERT starting value.
[Sun Oct 18 18:06:42 2020]
Error getting CERT starting value.
I removed Cert from worktodo and unchecked it in Worker Windows to stop this. This is an i7 6700k with 32 GiB of Ram. Asus 170 board. A newer machine, i7 9700k, 32 GiB of RAM has no problems.
On both machines I upgraded to V30.3 b6 by copying the unzipped files to the existing directory.

JuanTutors · 2020-10-23, 19:43

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Originally Posted by JuanTutors

Not sure if this has been reported yet but this version of Prime95 seems to have the same problem that some apps/programs have on 4k monitors. The text is exceedingly small. I am restarting the computer to see if things get fixed but I have attached what the program looks like right now.

I noticed this isn't listed in the bugs list yet. It's not obvious from the picture, but the letters in 30.3 are actually smaller than is legible. Is there any plans to fix this?

Uncwilly · 2020-10-23, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuanTutors

I noticed this isn't listed in the bugs list yet. It's not obvious from the picture, but the letters in 30.3 are actually smaller than is legible. Is there any plans to fix this?

They are fine on my different displays. I have a desktop of 3000x3000 on one machine.

2020-10-21, 18:33	#445
kriesel "TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17" Mar 2017 US midwest 5041₁₀ Posts	An occasional check of current released version versus running version, such as at startup, would probably be ok, as long as it doesn't behave too obnoxiously or interfere with prime95 starting as a service, require user acknowledgement before running all workers, etc. Something like, if the running version is not the latest on https://www.mersenne.org/download/, and the running version has internet access, Code: Current released version is Vxx.y, running version is Vww.v. Please upgrade if/when practical. Of course this would only be effective for versions sometime after V30.3b6, as the older version, since the feature has not been included yet, so would not address the great majority still running V29.x or earlier, until those users can be persuaded to update, by other means.

2020-10-21, 18:43	#446
rainchill Apr 2005 DFW, tx 31 Posts	You are correct. Moving forward, the sooner some type of upgrade alert feature can be included the better. Last fiddled with by rainchill on 2020-10-21 at 18:48

2020-10-20, 15:11	#442
Uncwilly 6809 > 6502 """"""""""""""""""" Aug 2003 101×103 Posts 2²·5³·19 Posts	Your answer is here (somewhat): https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=559472

2020-10-21, 14:20	#443
rainchill Apr 2005 DFW, tx 11111₂ Posts	Yep - I've brought up auto updates for years for it to only be treated like the worst idea anyone has ever heard. At some point all the old clients out there genuinely are counter productive. At a minimum there should be a rule that the server does not hand out first time checks to clients older than ~2-3 years.

2020-10-22, 01:09	#448
James Heinrich "James Heinrich" May 2004 ex-Northern Ontario 2×1,669 Posts	I think the reference was more to the fact that unless you try really hard, Windows no longer lets you not install updates (maybe not this second, or even today, but sooner or later "you will comply").