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Old 2005-06-13, 21:58   #1
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Old 2005-06-14, 00:10   #2
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Ewwww! This guy is (at a minimum) very, very creepy. Any parent that lets their child anywhere near Michael Jackson ought to have their head examined.

That said, the verdict was probably correct. AFAIK, there wasn't much damning physical evidence presented, and he is just weird enough that he might really sleep with children without molesting them.
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Old 2005-06-14, 04:12   #3
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Ewwww! This guy is (at a minimum) very, very creepy. Any parent that lets their child anywhere near Michael Jackson ought to have their head examined.
I've gotten so sick of seeing that freakish multiple-plastic-surgeried, garishly made-up and lipsticked face on the various online news sites that I've disabled all image-loading in my browser.

CNN founder Ted Turner had it right when he recently talked about the "pervert of the day" obsession running rampant in the media (including CNN, which Turner is no longer involved with in any official capacity, having been forced out several years ago by "new mismanagement".)
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Old 2005-06-14, 06:48   #4
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garishly made-up and lipsticked face
Ernst,

Apparently you've never heard, or have forgotten, that Michael Jackson has vitiligo, a pigmentation disorder in which the skin cells that make pigment are destroyed.

Quoting from "The Michael Jackson Fan Club | Facts About Vitiligo" at http://www.mjfanclub.net/history/vitiligo.html:

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Patients with Vitiligo develop white spots in the skin that vary in size and location. The disease affects both sexes and all races however; the distinctive patches are most noticeable in people with darker skin tones.

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Unfortunately, there is no known cure for Vitiligo at this time. There are however, two basic treatment options: Repigmentation - to try to restore the normal pigment; and depigmentation - to try to destroy the remaining pigment cells.

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Depigmentation is warranted when a patient has Vitiligo over more than 50% of the body. A cream containing a drug called monobenzone is used to permanently destroy the pigment cells in unaffected areas of the skin and produce a uniform skin tone. ... Depigmentation is permanent and cannot be reversed. Also, people who undergo this procedure should be advised that it does result in extreme photosensitivity (they will always be abnormally sensitive to the sunlight).
Apparently, Jackson has undergone the depigmentation treatment (my guess).

You may have noticed, before shutting off images, that when Jackson has been shown arriving at or leaving the courthouse, he is always shaded by an umbrella. Also, he always wears long sleeves, gloves, and sunglasses, in accordance with what you can read about recommended skin protection at the linked site.

As for the lipstick: colorless lips without any covering would look even stranger, and would sunburn rapidly.

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Though there was publicity about Jackson's vitiligo over a decade ago, it seems obvious that a large proportion of folks who currently express distaste about Michael Jackson's appearance are ignorant of his condition and/or perhaps mistakenly associate it with the plastic surgery which he did have earlier.

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Old 2005-06-14, 07:21   #5
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Let me add that I have had even more sympathy for Mr. Jackson's condition since a couple of years ago when, as a side-effect of one of my diabetes prescriptions, I developed abnormal sensitivity to sunlight. (This can happen with a number of different nondiabetic prescription medicines, as well.)

I do not know how much Jakson's sensitivity to light resembles mine.

Even though I had no change in pigmentation, my skin now burns very, very easily. And sunscreens (at least the standard ones) don't help much, because my new sensitivity is to the violet end of the visible spectrum, not to UV. I'd have to use the opaque white sunblock that lifeguards use on their noses. (Perhaps Mr. Jackson uses some such opaque sunblock on his face?)

Standard sunscreens still do protect me from UV, to which my sensitivity has not changed. However, since I can't afford to be in sunlight much, I don't develop much natural tan for UV protection any more.

As I write this, my left forearm and back of my left hand look fairly normal, but there's a burning sensation from when I stupidly drove two days ago without taking precautuions because I thought it was sufficiently cloudy. I hated wearing long-sleeved shirts in summer, but now have had to make my mind up to learn to love them. Also, gloves and hats. Usually, I just stay indoors all day as much as possible throughout the summer.

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Old 2005-06-14, 16:35   #6
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Apparently you've never heard, or have forgotten, that Michael Jackson has vitiligo, a pigmentation disorder in which the skin cells that make pigment are destroyed.
While that maybe, his skintone lightened over a period of years before he went all white.

Cheesehead, try taking Bactrim, the main drug that is given out for UTI's. When taking that and walking outside, you will get a prickly sensation all over your exposed skin.
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Old 2005-06-14, 18:41   #7
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Quoting from "The Michael Jackson Fan Club | Facts About Vitiligo" at http://www.mjfanclub.net/history/vitiligo.html:
I've no doubt that the MJFC has most of their facts about Vitiligo right (not that I'm planning to spend any time there, mind you), but MJ's sudden adult-onset whole-body (or at least the parts we can see) bleaching doesn't fit the well-known medical pattern for the disorder. It also doesn't explain the ever-shrinking nose, the suddenly much-squarer jaw, the higher eyebrows, etc. Several prominent medical experts have referred to MJ's claims in terms like "the most unusual case of vitiligo I've ever seen."

While I can well believe that MJ has a medical disorder, I'm much more inclined to believe it's of the mental variety. And whether he has Vitiligo or not, I *still* don't want his face staring back at me every day when I go to read news, just like I wouldn't want my local paper to feature a splashy picture of someone else with a disfiguring disorder (or a mutilated-pet-of-the-day, or gory-body-piercing du jour) on page 1 every day of the week. Yes, the media are largely to blame for the ongoing freak-show-style coverage of the case, but then again, Jackson has gone out of his way to cultivate that kind of image, so who can blame the media for taking him up on it?
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Old 2005-06-15, 09:04   #8
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While that maybe, his skintone lightened over a period of years before he went all white.
As that information page says, "... for some people the depigmentation spreads slowly, over many years. For others, the spreading occurs rapidly." Also, I would expect a person in the entertainment field to use various cosmetic means to maintain a fairly uniform skin tone appearance as the vitiligo progressed, lightening as time went on, rather than showing blotches just as they developed. I see no contradiction between Jackson's appearance history and a diagnosis of vitiligo.

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try taking Bactrim, the main drug that is given out for UTI's. When taking that and walking outside, you will get a prickly sensation all over your exposed skin.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm already well-enough aware of my exposures to sunlight. I just haven't yet developed strong-enough habits of taking sufficient precautions to protect myself from it.

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MJ's sudden adult-onset whole-body (or at least the parts we can see) bleaching doesn't fit the well-known medical pattern for the disorder.
You seem to have seen a different progression than Uncwilly observed. And, as I quoted, the site says it can be either fast or slow.

Also, my theory that Jackson has used cosmetics to regulate his skin appearance once the vitiligo started would imply that none of us knows just how fast his case progressed.

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It also doesn't explain the ever-shrinking nose, the suddenly much-squarer jaw, the higher eyebrows, etc.
So? He did have plastic surgery.

In fact, it could be his plastic surgery itself that was the trigger for vitiligo development. Again from the site: "The most credible theory, and the most frequently reported precipitating factor, is a single stressful physical or psychological event such as ... surgery ... or some other source of emotional trauma or distress."
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Old 2005-06-15, 16:06   #9
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While that maybe, his skintone lightened over a period of years before he went all white.

Cheesehead, try taking Bactrim, the main drug that is given out for UTI's. When taking that and walking outside, you will get a prickly sensation all over your exposed skin.
Sorry cheesehead to hear of your maladywhich can make life very uncomfortable.
I would recommend a 3 month course on Aloe Vera. Wash the affected areas with its liquid soap then apply AV gelly and have an oral dose (2 pegs) of AV gel early morning the first thing on an empty stomach. It is best for diabetics and its off shoots of related complaints.
I saved my wife of amputation of the right foot because it had 5 non healing ulcers as diagnosed by the leading specialists. Daily use of the combination I mentioned cured her in 8 months.
Whats more this is manufactured by Aloe Vera of America, inc. in Dallas Texas.
Here it is marketed by Forever Living Products. By joining a similar organisation
in your city of residence you can become a distributor so you will get your supply at a very much cheaper price compared to the MRP. and also sell to others. In the 3 hr. seminars they hold they teach free of charge how to use their products. If you want more details I can supply them to you.
Another mixture you can take orally is a combination of 2 parts honey and one part cinnamon powder. Yes I know you are diabetic but a tablespoon taken early in the morning wont do you any harm. In the mornings the blood sugar count is low so its very safe.
These two medicines have worked wonders for my wife, Nay miracles I would say and all you have to do is to try it out!
Best of luck
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Old 2005-06-16, 07:11   #10
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The guy already admits that he is peter pan (never never land???) ... My biggest question is not did MJ abuse little boys.

http://www.kidscolorpages.com/peterpan2.htm

The question is should the parents of the children be put up on child endangerment charges.
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Old 2005-06-25, 05:54   #11
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Here are few of the many making the rounds
Q. How does Michael Jackson pick his nose?
A. From a catalogue.

Q: Have you heard about Michael Jackson's New Book?
A: It's called "The In's and Out's of Child Rearing².

Q. How do you know Michael Jackson is having a party?
A. There are a bunch of tricycles in front of his house.

Q: Why was Michael Jackson spotted at K-Mart?
A: He heard boys' pants were half-off!

Q. What's the difference between Mr. Potato Head and Michael Jackson?
A. Michael Jackson has had more noses.

Q. When is it bed time at Michael Jackson¹s house?
A. When the big hand is on the little hand!
Any more?
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