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 2021-10-10, 00:17 #320 tuckerkao   "Tucker Kao" Jan 2020 Head Base M168202123 571 Posts There are some remaining M168,***,*23 exponents such as M168487523 that have been trial factored up to 2^76 by Oliver Kruse before me, so by find and bring all those classes of the exponents up to 2^77 or higher, I'll eventually guarantee to have my name written on all the unfactored M168,***,*23 exponents at least once. Last fiddled with by tuckerkao on 2021-10-10 at 00:31
 2021-10-11, 00:58 #321 tuckerkao   "Tucker Kao" Jan 2020 Head Base M168202123 23B16 Posts M168,*8*,*23 without known factors: 0801, 0812, 0848, 0872 ,0882, 0884, 0893 1802, 1817, 1820, 1841, 1848, 1892, 1895 2802, 2810, 2838, 2853, 2858, 2880 3864 4827, 4830, 4832, 4841, 4851, 4854, 4875, 4886, 4893 5846 6807, 6836, 6884 7841, 7842 8831, 8843, 8864, 8874 9822 M168080123, M168081223, M168084823, M168087223, M168088223, M168088423, M168089323 M168180223, M168181723, M168182023, M168184123, M168184823, M168189223, M168189523 M168280223, M168281023, M168283823, M168285323, M168285823, M168288023 M168386423 M168482723, M168483023, M168483223, M168484123, M168485123, M168485423, M168487523, M168488623, M168489323 M168584623 M168680723, M168683623, M168688423 M168784123, M168784223 M168883123, M168884323, M168886423, M168887423 M168982223 Exponent such as M168485323 is no longer on the list because it has already been tested by Ben Delo.
 2021-10-11, 02:38 #322 tuckerkao   "Tucker Kao" Jan 2020 Head Base M168202123 571 Posts The attached image makes me totally different. Attached Thumbnails
 2021-10-11, 13:17 #323 Dobri   "刀-比-日" May 2018 EF16 Posts Here is some info about the Chinese superstition surrounding 168 ('one path to prosperity'), https://journeys.dartmouth.edu/folkl...er-168-chinese, and also what is known about it in number theory, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/168_(number). However, ending in 23 could be counterproductive, Hexagram 23 in I Ching is named bō, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ng#Hexagram_23, which means 'stripping' or 'splitting apart'. Last fiddled with by Dobri on 2021-10-11 at 13:35
2021-10-14, 04:40   #324
tuckerkao

"Tucker Kao"
Jan 2020

571 Posts

It's so nice to have Dobri working on my M168,***,*23 exponents. M168852323 was factored through P-1 by Dobri not Tucker Kao.

Dobri got another F-PM1 on M168322477, surprisingly high chance of hitting factors in this area.

The M168,8**,*23 arrangement seems to be more composite for some reason. I got F-PM1 on both M168830323 and M168860123 a while ago. Interestingly all the factors found were located between 2^80 to 2^90.

Maybe Dobri can run P-1 on M168285323 as well.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by VBCurtis So you understood the rules perfectly, and decided "your own style" was to not follow them? A date range doesn't follow the rules. You gave a date range, and then claim things like "I read everything" and "I am completely within the rules of the game" and "I understand everything." Those 3 claims are inconsistent. You fail, and you highlight your failure via repeated claims that you know what you are doing and did it on purpose. So, you're not only a troll, but a willful one- that's the kind of behavior that leads folks to ban you from guesses.
If you can gather together all this type of users that you've defined as noobs to work on the P-1, TFs and/or PRPs of M168,***,*23 exponents, then I'll have a project with a group in it.

There have been considerable amount of M168,***,*23 exponents factored up to 2^76 or 2^77, so always nice to have some other users to run P-1 which will take less than 1 day per entry for most of the machines.

https://www.mersenne.ca/status/tf/0/20210201/4/16800

Last fiddled with by tuckerkao on 2021-10-14 at 05:20

2021-10-14, 07:41   #325
Dobri

"刀-比-日"
May 2018

239 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by tuckerkao Maybe Dobri can run P-1 on M168285323 as well.
Certainly, I could test some exponents in this range if the AI assistant for manual selection I am developing includes it in the list of prospective exponents.
For some reason, the current AI version lists more exponents it this range ending in 43 rather than 23.
My viewpoint is that one could balance their participation in the wavefront testing with limited manual selection.

If viewing the entire 9-digit exponent range as a strategy game where different gamers employ specific strategies rather than a plain random selection, young users, not particularly mathematically inclined, could find it worth participating in GIMPS from a gaming viewpoint.

 2021-10-14, 08:37 #326 Dobri   "刀-比-日" May 2018 239 Posts There could even be a Factor Hunter of the Year Award for the user with most factored (for the first time) Mersenne numbers. The number of factored Mersenne numbers of every user could be deleted by the number of computers/cores used (adding GHz adjustments) so that even a user with a single computer could possibly win.
2021-10-15, 00:06   #327
tuckerkao

"Tucker Kao"
Jan 2020

571 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Dobri There could even be a Factor Hunter of the Year Award for the user with most factored (for the first time) Mersenne numbers.
Then the user who has the best Nvidia GPU will likely to win the championship. Nvidia Geforce 3090 Super can finish 1 TF from 2^73 to 2^74 for M168M every 5~6 minutes and faster as the exponents grow larger. There's no way for a regular user to win for a single PC. Are you willing to spend $2,000+ for a single GPU? Most users don't use CPU to perform the trial factoring, thus very hard to track how many physical cores have been used. Last fiddled with by tuckerkao on 2021-10-15 at 00:08  2021-10-15, 03:50 #328 VBCurtis "Curtis" Feb 2005 Riverside, CA 2×43×59 Posts You're not thinking big enough if you think the people who factor the most use any single GPU. Nothing stands in the way of users employing an army of$200-400 GPUs rather than one \$2000 card. It's just electricity, after all.
2021-10-15, 05:19   #329
Dobri

"刀-比-日"
May 2018

239 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by tuckerkao Most users don't use CPU to perform the trial factoring, thus very hard to track how many physical cores have been used.
It depends how relaxed the factoring competition rules should be.
Users intending to participate in a competition could register in advance and provide information about their computing resources.
Then future results.json.txt files (or separate competition.json.txt files) generated by prime95 or gpuOwl could include (encoded) info about the CPU/GPU specifications which could be useful for QA purposes as well.
Also, a factoring competition could eventually be limited to P-1 tests only.
The award could be a unique T-shirt.

 2021-10-15, 08:43 #330 Dobri   "刀-比-日" May 2018 111011112 Posts A simple way to select the most efficient Factor Hunter of the Year would be to divide their number of factored (for the first time) Mersenne numbers by their total number of tested exponents.

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