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Feb 2004
France
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A Paper by Carl Pomerance.
Hi, Mr Pomerance has produced an interesting paper where he talks about the important contribution of Edouard Lucas to the primality tests. He provides an equivalence between the LLT and a very different kind of test. He read the thesis about E. Lucas and the wonderful book of HC Williams on the work of E. Lucas. To be read, I think. Regards, Tony |
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Feb 2004
France
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The abstract of this paper says:
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My email address appears in this paper, as an example. Thanks ! Tony Last fiddled with by T.Rex on 2009-01-30 at 11:42 |
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"Nancy"
Aug 2002
Alexandria
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I had a quick look. Their idea reduces testing Mp for primality to factoring Mp...
In particular, they construct an elliptic curve with a point of order 2[I]p[/I] if Mp is prime and argue that if Mp is composite you might well hit a non-invertible coordinate before finishing p iterations (that's the λ≪p bit). That's plain wrong. They show that it saves time for p=23, and write "Our complexity analysis and computing experiments show that the elliptic curve test is more efficient than the Lucas-Lehmer test and is a good candidate as a replacement to the Lucas-Lehmer test for Mersenne primes." I didn't see any complexity analysis or results of experiments with larger composite Mp in the paper. My recommendation: don't bother reading it. Alex Last fiddled with by akruppa on 2009-01-30 at 19:02 Reason: order 2^p, not p+1..., added "larger composite Mp" |
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Sheesh ... you'd think they'd have at least tried the method out on some much-larger Mersennes, say M31 or even M37. [Rolls eyes]
Let me guess: "Extension to larger M(p) such as M31 will require 64-bit integer arithmetic, and will be the subject of a future paper." |
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"Nancy"
Aug 2002
Alexandria
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Well ok, they did try on M31, but since that's a genuine Mersenne prime, both methods as expected need the full number of iterations. But that's the only two exponents they list, in particular no larger composite Mp. So, point well taken...
Alex |
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Feb 2004
France
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