20190309, 23:44  #1 
Mar 2019
149 Posts 
GMPECM vs mprime for F12?
I've been playing a bit with GMPECM vs. mprime for the remaining C1133 of F12.
It seems mprime's ECM mode is way faster (3 hours vs. 6+) on my Xeon. Why is this? Does it have some particular optimizations for Fermat numbers, the use of gwnum, something else? 
20190310, 03:28  #2 
P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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Yes, mprime uses the faster gwnum library vs. GMP for GMPECM.
However, GMPECM uses a superior algorithm for stage 2. So, the optimal solution is to use mprime for stage 1 and GMPECM for stage 2. Dig around in the forums for instructions on how to do this. Good luck in your search 
20190311, 15:46  #3 
Mar 2019
149 Posts 
It seems like compiling GMPECM with the withgwnum configuration option seems to (roughly) do the trick?

20190311, 19:05  #4 
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Yeehaw, FL
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20190312, 00:40  #5  
Mar 2019
10010101_{2} Posts 
Quote:
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GMPECM 7.0.4 [configured with GMP 6.1.2, GWNUM 29.4, enableasmredc] [ECM] Tuned for x86_64/k8/params.h Due to incompatible licenses, this binary file must not be distributed. Input number is (2^4096+1)/25860116183332395113497853167940236083358054650286886725246241569916604094012679963198712829716480001 (1133 digits) Found number: 1*2^4096 + 1 Using special division for factor of 2^4096+1 Using B1=850000000, B2=15892628251516, polynomial x^1, sigma=0:17241075805006320821 dF=524288, k=5, d=5705700, d2=17, i0=132 Expected number of curves to find a factor of n digits: 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 16 51 183 729 3188 15164 77841 427872 2503667 1.6e+07 Using gwnum_ecmStage1(1, 2, 4096, 1, 850000000, 1) Step 1 took 7762359ms Estimated memory usage: 13.58GB Initializing tables of differences for F took 3ms Computing roots of F took 11918ms Building F from its roots took 96743ms Computing 1/F took 80569ms Initializing table of differences for G took 140ms Computing roots of G took 8681ms Building G from its roots took 96779ms Computing roots of G took 8755ms Building G from its roots took 97078ms Computing G * H took 50789ms Reducing G * H mod F took 96635ms Computing roots of G took 9421ms Building G from its roots took 114522ms Computing G * H took 54272ms Reducing G * H mod F took 98293ms Computing roots of G took 8740ms Building G from its roots took 94358ms Computing G * H took 49260ms Reducing G * H mod F took 98047ms Computing roots of G took 8667ms Building G from its roots took 93193ms Computing G * H took 48465ms Reducing G * H mod F took 96023ms Computing polyeval(F,G) took 283192ms Computing product of all F(g_i) took 2667ms Step 2 took 1609858ms Expected time to find a factor of n digits: 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 1.78d 5.59d 19.89d 79.11d 345.78d 4.51y 23.13y 127.16y 744.07y 4613y 

20190312, 03:14  #6 
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Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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Cool.
Can you test it to find known factors of F12? Maybe Xyzzy can dig up the sigma and bounds for his discovered factor. 
20190312, 04:29  #7 
"Curtis"
Feb 2005
Riverside, CA
3·1,579 Posts 
If this build finds known factors, I'm going to be finding some mersenne factors with it!
I wish you success, mathwiz. 
20190312, 06:34  #8 
Einyen
Dec 2003
Denmark
C04_{16} Posts 
Here is the sigma from the F14 factor:
https://mersenneforum.org/showpost.p...9&postcount=18 So you can test with: ecm.exe sigma 8585974330888598 110e6 110e8 < f14.txt where f14.txt is just "2^16384+1" 
20190312, 14:00  #9 
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Yeehaw, FL
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After you've completed a QA run, be aware that stage 1 (I can't comment on stage 2) is not multithreaded. On a multicore machine you'll want to be running several instances during stage 1.
Stage 2 where access to memory is critical you'll probably only want one instance running  check with GMPECMers to see if this advice is accurate. 
20190312, 19:57  #10  
Mar 2019
225_{8} Posts 
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Input number is 2^16384+1 (4933 digits) Found number: 1*2^16384 + 1 Using special division for factor of 2^16384+1 Using B1=110000000, B2=11000000000, polynomial x^1, sigma=0:8585974330888598 dF=16384, k=4, d=158340, d2=11, i0=684 Expected number of curves to find a factor of n digits: 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 73 308 1481 7942 46946 302925 2115419 1.6e+07 1.3e+08 1.1e+09 Using gwnum_ecmStage1(1, 2, 16384, 1, 110000000, 1) Step 1 took 3102146ms Estimated memory usage: 1.64GB Initializing tables of differences for F took 13ms Computing roots of F took 1634ms Building F from its roots took 3879ms Computing 1/F took 1515ms Initializing table of differences for G took 139ms Computing roots of G took 1282ms Building G from its roots took 3860ms Computing roots of G took 1282ms Building G from its roots took 3860ms Computing G * H took 844ms Reducing G * H mod F took 1269ms Computing roots of G took 1283ms Building G from its roots took 3853ms Computing G * H took 843ms Reducing G * H mod F took 1268ms Computing roots of G took 1282ms Building G from its roots took 3879ms Computing G * H took 846ms Reducing G * H mod F took 1270ms Computing polyeval(F,G) took 8930ms Computing product of all F(g_i) took 622ms Step 2 took 43778ms ********** Factor found in step 2: 116928085873074369829035993834596371340386703423373313 Found prime factor of 54 digits: 116928085873074369829035993834596371340386703423373313 Composite cofactor (2^16384+1)/116928085873074369829035993834596371340386703423373313 has 4880 digits Peak memory usage: 994MB 

20190313, 04:49  #11 
Mar 2019
149 Posts 
Interestingly, GMPECM only seems to use gwnum_ecmStage1() if the input is written out explicitly in (2^n +/ 1)/d form, as opposed to a full decimal. E.g.:
Code:
Input number is 7124875134919416452774071346240764917465050401053729788475829418006792633070197260773480462000925038600888030166963314178711084227927169505054967049906157236644045588489318562381444403587801123276191390920852492526599174604254696368010876509960456095578194840205874002033519141134093531142804832239163228700607998501023572045880402900991 (337 digits) Did not find a gwnum poly for the input number. Using special division for factor of 2^12431 Code:
Input number is (2^12431)/(2^1131)/2047 (337 digits) Found number: 1*2^1243 + 1 Using special division for factor of 2^12431 Using B1=850000000, B2=15892628251516, polynomial Dickson(30), sigma=0:10702604903946832294 dF=524288, k=5, d=5705700, d2=17, i0=132 Expected number of curves to find a factor of n digits: 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 15 47 168 661 2867 13623 69471 381778 2221086 1.4e+07 Using gwnum_ecmStage1(1, 2, 1243, 1, 850000000, 1) 
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