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 2005-06-29, 13:30 #34 garo     Aug 2002 Termonfeckin, IE 276410 Posts ou are right. It would be much simpler and less time-consuming to fetch those numbers from the server. Still, I would encourage some of Marin's Mersennaries to put some effort into this - particularly those people who use artificially large B1,B2 for doublechecks such as James Heinrich (sp?). It would be nice if those people could do some P-1 for untested numbers especially since they are willing to spend more time per number to get more factors!
 2005-07-03, 05:49 #35 dave_0273     Oct 2003 Australia, Brisbane 1D616 Posts Status of p-1 using the 1st July, 2005 status files Code:  M NUMBER 0-15 0 16 0 17 0 18 0 19 431 20 1100 21 530 22 315 23 303 24 281 25 162 26 152 27 107 28 36 29 33 30 0 Code: 0.1MRANGE NUMBER CHANGE 19.0 0 0 19.1 0 0 19.2 1 0 19.3 0 0 19.4 0 0 19.5 0 0 19.6 0 -1 19.7 124 -109 19.8 126 -5 19.9 180 -1 20.0 128 -5 20.1 90 0 20.2 117 0 20.3 101 0 20.4 108 0 20.5 125 0 20.6 112 0 20.7 92 0 20.8 126 0 20.9 101 0 We are coming along quite nicely. Everything up to (and including) 19.6 is now complete. The exponent in the 19.2-19.3M range showed above is currently assigned to somone on primenet, therefore mersenne-aries won't touch it.
2005-07-13, 07:02   #36

"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA

22·3·641 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by dave_0273 The other thing that we would need is for another group to be working with us doing the trail factoring before we do the p-1.
Or ... Mersenne-aries could both TF and P-1 each number. Just check out some for TF, but don't report TF results until after doing P-1, then report both.

Or check out TF assignments, but do only P-1 using the LMHed TF limits, report the P-1, then unreserve the TF assignments. But there's a fatal flaw in this method -- see below.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by dave_0273 However, one the biggest reasons why I have never bothered to go ahead of the leading edge of LL testing is because if people really wanted to do that sort of work, they could always do it the semi-automated way. They could reserve 50 or so exponents, do the p-1 and then release them again. Because the work is therefore technically assigned through primenet, they wouldn't be duplicating work and they wouldn't be stepping on each others toes. This doesn't work with mersenne-aries because you just can't get enough work this way. The majority of exponents are p-1ed on the first LL test. Even when I tried to reserve 50 exponents, I would find that I would get less than 5 that would require a p-1 test.
But if Mersenne-aries used TF reservations instead of LL reservations, and both TFed and P-1ed, the latter objection disappears, doesn't it?

Of course, if Mersenne-aries did only P-1, but not actual TF, on TF assignments, then after unreserving those TF assignments the next Mersenne-ary to get the same TF reservation would waste a bunch of P-1 unless s/he checked the P-1 status first ... but that's difficult if pminus1.txt hasn't yet been updated, so maybe this idea of TF-less TFs won't work.

2005-07-14, 03:15   #37
dave_0273

Oct 2003
Australia, Brisbane

2·5·47 Posts

Quote:
 Of course, if Mersenne-aries did only P-1, but not actual TF, on TF assignments, then after unreserving those TF assignments the next Mersenne-ary to get the same TF reservation would waste a bunch of P-1 unless s/he checked the P-1 status first ... but that's difficult if pminus1.txt hasn't yet been updated, so maybe this idea of TF-less TFs won't work.
Very true. That is why I think that it would be better for people to reserve first time LL tests instead of trial factoring. Also, this way they have already been trail factored up to its default limit. I think that this would be preferable, rather than p-1ing an exponent and then doing the remaining trial factoring.

When I said that it wouldn't work with mersenne-aries, what I meant was that reserving exponents through primenet wouldn't work if you wanted to go ahead of the leading edge of double-checking. It would work fine however if you wanted to go ahead (or work co-currently) with the leading edge of first time LLing.

 2005-07-14, 08:04 #38 garo     Aug 2002 Termonfeckin, IE 22×691 Posts Yes dave, you are absolutely right. I agree. But we could have people with "excess" P-1 power to try that on a few numbers. And you don't even have to change the worktodo. Just insert SequentialWork=1 in prime.ini and all the P-1s will be finished before the first LL test is started. So by having a number that you are already LL testing at the top of the work queue you will never have to do any LL testing on the numbers you want to do a P-1 on.
 2005-07-14, 23:23 #39 markr     "Mark" Feb 2003 Sydney 3·191 Posts [pedant] SequentialWork=0 will stop it from doing the lines in order. [/pedant]
 2005-07-15, 06:07 #40 garo     Aug 2002 Termonfeckin, IE 22×691 Posts Riiiiiight!
 2005-07-18, 14:58 #41 dave_0273     Oct 2003 Australia, Brisbane 2·5·47 Posts Status of p-1 using the 18th July status files Code:  M CHANGE 0-15 0 16 0 17 0 18 1 19 224 20 1053 21 529 22 314 23 303 24 283 25 164 26 154 27 112 28 40 29 45 30 0 Code: 0.1MRANGE NUMBER CHANGE 19.0 0 0 19.1 0 0 19.2 1 0 19.3 0 0 19.4 0 0 19.5 0 0 19.6 0 0 19.7 124 0 19.8 1 -125 19.9 98 -82 20.0 83 -45 20.1 90 0 20.2 115 -2 20.3 101 0 20.4 108 0 20.5 125 0 20.6 112 0 20.7 92 0 20.8 126 0 20.9 101 0
 2005-08-06, 13:03 #42 James Heinrich     "James Heinrich" May 2004 ex-Northern Ontario 2·17·103 Posts Status of P-1 using the 1 Aug 2005 status files: Code:  M NUMBER 18 1 19 0 20 962 21 521 22 313 23 299 24 281 25 166 26 152 27 116 28 49 29 53 30 0 31 0 32 0 33 335 34 261 35 82 36 1 37 24 Code:  0.1M RANGE NUMBER CHANGE 18.6 1 0 18.7 0 0 18.8 0 0 18.9 0 0 19.0 0 0 19.1 0 0 19.2 0 -1 19.3 0 0 19.4 0 0 19.5 0 0 19.6 0 0 19.7 0 -124 19.8 0 -1 19.9 0 -98 20.0 34 -49 20.1 90 0 20.2 73 -42 20.3 101 0 20.4 108 0 20.5 125 0 20.6 112 0 20.7 92 0 20.8 126 0 20.9 101 0 21.0 98 0 21.1 84 0 21.2 94 0 21.3 49 0 21.4 24 0 21.5 32 0 21.6 33 0 21.7 32 0 21.8 32 0 21.9 43 0 22.0 40 0 22.1 28 0 22.2 25 0 22.3 28 0 22.4 33 0 22.5 37 0 22.6 38 0 22.7 36 0 22.8 21 0 22.9 27 0 23.0 33 0 23.1 27 0 23.2 30 0 23.3 33 0 23.4 29 0 23.5 24 0
 2005-08-17, 12:36 #43 James Heinrich     "James Heinrich" May 2004 ex-Northern Ontario DAE16 Posts Status of P-1 using the 17 Aug 2005 status files: Code:  M NUMBER 20 943 21 520 22 313 23 300 24 285 25 168 26 153 27 123 28 55 29 66 30 0 31 0 32 0 33 334 34 263 35 91 36 1 37 24 38 1 Code:  0.1M RANGE NUMBER CHANGE 20.0 34 0 20.1 90 0 20.2 54 -19 20.3 101 0 20.4 108 0 20.5 125 0 20.6 112 0 20.7 92 0 20.8 126 0 20.9 101 0 21.0 97 -1 21.1 84 0 21.2 94 0 21.3 49 0 21.4 24 0 21.5 32 0 21.6 33 0 21.7 32 0 21.8 32 0 21.9 43 0 22.0 40 0 22.1 28 0 22.2 25 0 22.3 28 0 22.4 33 0 22.5 37 0 22.6 38 0 22.7 36 0 22.8 21 0 22.9 27 0 23.0 33 0 23.1 27 0 23.2 30 0 23.3 33 0 23.4 29 0 23.5 24 0 23.6 35 0 23.7 28 0 23.8 25 0 23.9 36 0 24.0 39 0 24.1 25 0 24.2 33 0 24.3 28 0 24.4 31 0 24.5 35 0 24.6 30 0 24.7 22 0 24.8 28 0 24.9 14 0 Last fiddled with by James Heinrich on 2005-08-17 at 12:37
 2005-10-02, 23:31 #44 James Heinrich     "James Heinrich" May 2004 ex-Northern Ontario 2·17·103 Posts Status of P-1 using the 22 September 2005 status files: Code:  M NUMBER 20 734 21 522 22 316 23 300 24 291 25 179 26 167 27 145 28 67 29 94 30 5 31 0 32 0 33 333 34 287 35 103 36 1 37 25 38 3 39 0 40 0 41 1 Code:  0.1M RANGE NUMBER CHANGE 20.0 33 -1 20.1 44 -46 20.2 0 -54 20.3 101 0 20.4 0 -108 20.5 125 0 20.6 112 0 20.7 92 0 20.8 126 0 20.9 101 0 21.0 97 0 21.1 84 0 21.2 93 -1 21.3 49 0 21.4 24 0 21.5 32 0 21.6 33 0 21.7 33 1 21.8 33 1 21.9 44 1 22.0 40 0 22.1 28 0 22.2 25 0 22.3 28 0 22.4 33 0 22.5 37 0 22.6 38 0 22.7 37 1 22.8 23 2 22.9 27 0 23.0 33 0 23.1 27 0 23.2 30 0 23.3 33 0 23.4 29 0 23.5 24 0 23.6 35 0 23.7 28 0 23.8 25 0 23.9 36 0 24.0 39 0 24.1 26 1 24.2 33 0 24.3 30 2 24.4 31 0 24.5 36 1 24.6 31 1 24.7 23 1 24.8 28 0 24.9 14 0 Last fiddled with by James Heinrich on 2005-10-15 at 01:41

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