20040406, 12:15  #1 
Dec 2003
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Recurrence Equation
c(n+2) = 8c(n+1)  16c(n), c(1) = 1, c(2) = 8
Given the above recurrence equation and starting conditions, the goal is to find the solution (that is, an equation that calculates c(n) without reference to previous terms). The characteristic polynomial is: n^2 = 8n  16 n^2 + 8n + 16 = 0 n = 4 (repeated root) What has made this problem difficult for me is the repeated root. Because of the repeated root, the solution given at http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LinearR...eEquation.html doesn't work because it involves dividing by zero. In case it helps, here are some more terms: c(0) = 0 c(1) = 1 c(2) = 8 c(3) = 48 c(4) = 256 c(5) = 1280 c(6) = 6144 c(7) = 28672 Also, the ratio between successive terms appears to be approaching some number close to 4. Thanks 
20040406, 19:14  #2 
Dec 2003
23 Posts 
I'm probably just missing something obvious somewhere, but what is wrong with eq. (11) on the Mathworld page? In the situation you present, A=8, x_{1}=1 and x_{2}=8 so the first term that starts with (Ax_{1} x_{2}) is identical to zero and all that remains is the second term.
Last fiddled with by FeLiNe on 20040406 at 19:20 Reason: I just learned how to do proper subscripts 'round'ere. 
20040407, 01:32  #3 
Dec 2003
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I meant Equation 13 (I do know of a way to adjust the formula to take account of different starting terms, but that doesn't solve the problem of dividing by zero).

20040407, 02:41  #4  
"William"
May 2003
New Haven
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Quote:
A*(4)^{n} + B*n*(4)^{n} You pick A and B to match the first two terms. One way to derive this is to take the two root solution with alpha = beta + epsilon and figure out what happens in the limit as epsilon goes to zero. You have [(beta+epsilon)^{n}  beta^{n}]/(beta+epsilonbeta) =[beta^{n} + n*epsilon* beta^{n1} + epsilon^{2}*??  beta^{n}]/epsilon = n*beta^{n1} + epsilon*?? Absobing a factor of beta into the constant, in the limit this is proportional to n * beta^{n} William 

20040407, 06:08  #5 
Dec 2003
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Ok, that's the right answer (proven by induction).
Thanks 
20040515, 11:59  #6 
May 2004
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Just for final clarification,
c(n)=(1)^n*4^(1 + n)*n c(n)=(1)**n*4**(1 + n)*n Is TeX form or even better MathML form possible to post? 
20040515, 14:02  #7  
"William"
May 2003
New Haven
2^{3}×5×59 Posts 
Quote:
c(n) = (1)^{n}4^{n1}n 

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