Trial Factor assignments squatting in Cat 0 and Cat 1 DC range

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Just take 2 weeks worth of work at a time and turn it in.

Low bandwidth available at the moment, but I agree with what is being said here.

TF Assignments simply should not be allowed for Cat 0 nor 1 (or even low 2). FC nor DC ranges.

Assignment requests means they're clearly not aware of how "optional" works.

If they *really* want to bring some candidates up a bit-level, let them do it "off-the-books".

The worst that will happen is approximately once every 100 attempts an FC might be started which turns out not to have been necessary.

My 4 cents (Barbados).

P.S. Let the arguments begin as to if it's ~1/100, or ~1/[TF Depth]...

[Uncwilly]

The value produced by the link at the top now shows zero TF assignments now. The TF GPU manual assignments page still shows the DC milestone as the low end of the assignable range.

[Syntony]

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

As of this moment there are 68 TF assignments in the DC Cat 0 and 1 range below 54M. All were assigned in the last month.
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Astonishingly all 68 of them completed on 23rd September - all factored to 76 bits apart from one, which has a factor at 75 bits (https://www.mersenne.ca/exponent/53524183)



Grab them while they're hot!

[ATH]

A lot more TF in DC Cat 0 + 1 :
https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...first=1&exp1=1

It has no business there, makes me angry and I feel like saying "lets poach it all asap and hope he wastes a lot of cycles on it".

[Uncwilly]

I suspect that Viliam will work rapidly on these and get them turned in quickly. As for the other 2:
Waldir Walter Junior, not so much.
laxeye, I have no clue

[LaurV]

Originally Posted by ATH

It has no business there, makes me angry and I feel like saying "lets poach it all asap and hope he wastes a lot of cycles on it".

Bad of you. Bad ATH! Bad! What's your complaint? "Let it be the goat of the neighbor die too"? If those are of "no business", then the server should not assign them. It is not user's fault. Those are legal assignments. As long as the user works them, and not stall them, you have no complaint. On two good cards, those are just few days of work and if factors found, it may save some LLDC time... Of course, he could chose better things to do with those cards, here we agree, but wishing him to "waste a lot of cycles" is a bit too tough... Well.. Somehow, we are all wasting cycles here, when we should do better things, like searching for ET or helping to cure the cancer Who the hack needs factors and millions digits primes?

[Viliam Furik]

Originally Posted by ATH

A lot more TF in DC Cat 0 + 1 :
https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...first=1&exp1=1

It has no business there, makes me angry and I feel like saying "lets poach it all asap and hope he wastes a lot of cycles on it".

Yeah, uhm, sorry for that, but I have checked that exponents which were assigned to me for TF are not assigned for DC yet. Plus expected throughput is about 70 expos per day.

[retina]

Originally Posted by LaurV

Who the hack needs factors and millions digits primes?

We're all in it for the life-changing prize money. You mean you aren't?

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by Viliam Furik

Yeah, uhm, sorry for that, but I have checked that exponents which were assigned to me for TF are not assigned for DC yet. Plus expected throughput is about 70 expos per day.

If you could make sure that you avoid the Cat 0 and Cat 1 that would be best. And even staying up at Cat 3 would be better. Finish what you have assigned. Some of us just want the server to not allow TF assignments so close to the trailing edge.

[ATH]

Originally Posted by Viliam Furik

Yeah, uhm, sorry for that, but I have checked that exponents which were assigned to me for TF are not assigned for DC yet. Plus expected throughput is about 70 expos per day.

Ok, if you finish them that fast it is not toooo bad, but still the whole thresholds and categories were implemented to keep low DC and low LL assignments from moving quickly. TF assignments blocks the actual DC assignments and you will only find on the order of 1% factors, so for every 100 DC assignments you block, you will only "finish" one of those exponents.
TF should be done by the time exponents reach Cat 0+1 and maybe 2.

[S485122]

Originally Posted by ATH

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TF should be done by the time exponents reach Cat 0+1 and maybe 2.

We (almost) all agree on that. The problem is that those in charge of implementing the rules are busy with the new PRP with certificates, which implies a complete overhaul of the server. What I regret is the total absence of a response to the numerous complaints and inquiries about those manual TF assignments. Those complaints started long before this new development. An acknowledgement of the problem would be enough to calm us down somewhat ;-)

Jacob