The Appallingly Blue Page - Page 7

Dubslow · 2012-08-01, 18:11

I do wish the thread title fiddling would remain in the "Extra/Other Stuff" areas.

PS: Placement issue resolved. Enjoy

Dubslow · 2012-08-03, 09:15

It seems that it's now been a week since the "Recent Progress" column was added, so that 43.70% of sequences updated in the last week should hover around there, plus or minus a few tenths of a percent, until YAFU@Home shuts down.

fivemack · 2012-08-03, 18:11

Would it be reasonable to ask for an 'exclude reserved sequences' button on the front page?

Less reasonably, I'd quite like a range filter, so I can see things like 'unreserved sequences at 130-140 digits starting with numbers between 10000 and 100000' - you can't do that with combinations of sorts because the sort-by-size disrupts the sort-by-start.

Dubslow · 2012-08-03, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by fivemack

Would it be reasonable to ask for an 'exclude reserved sequences' button on the front page?

Less reasonably, I'd quite like a range filter, so I can see things like 'unreserved sequences at 130-140 digits starting with numbers between 10000 and 100000' - you can't do that with combinations of sorts because the sort-by-size disrupts the sort-by-start.

The checkbox should appear in around ten minutes. I think I've found a way to do the range filtering, but it will take longer (mostly due to my inexperience with JS/HTML). It might appear next hour, depending on how interesting the GBR/CAN match is. (It already is very interesting.)

Dubslow · 2012-08-03, 20:12

Well the second half wasn't very interesting.

The filtering should work now. The problem is that the table redraws every time the user unpresses a key, which can create some visual lag in the boxes filling out. I have code in to use a button instead. Which do you guys prefer?

LaurV · 2012-08-04, 03:52

We don't give a dime for how many times the table redraws itself. Remember we don't work locally, but remotely, and for us the lag is anyhow longer, caused by the internet speed (the table need a while to load anyhow, and that you can't control there). So, as long as the info in the table is correct, and filtered according with our preferences, then let the table redraw itself 5 times for each click... who cares?

We don't want to play HD movies or online games on your web page...

LaurV and the Sat morning coffee...

Dubslow · 2012-08-04, 04:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurV

We don't give a dime for how many times the table redraws itself. Remember we don't work locally, but remotely, and for us the lag is anyhow longer, caused by the internet speed (the table need a while to load anyhow, and that you can't control there). So, as long as the info in the table is correct, and filtered according with our preferences, then let the table redraw itself 5 times for each click... who cares?

We don't want to play HD movies or online games on your web page...

LaurV and the Sat morning coffee...

Okay then.

Btw, I've learned that the main search box can be left as is, take regexs, or search for whatever you literally type in (as opposed to searching for the space-separated substrings of what you type that it currently does). Should that just be left the same?

LaurV · 2012-08-04, 05:43

I think so, it should stay the same. Now it is very easy to search for a range, then sort them by size, etc, then one can get exactly what he wants, very fast, with only few clicks. Where can some more work be done: ingoring the space/whitespace in columns (for example I want to type "2^2*3*5" and not "2^2 * 3 * 5"), this way the searching algorithm will be more refined (for the given example, it shows also sequences with 3^2 and no 5, or no 3, if he finds 3 and 5 in different columns. That is why eliminating the spaces would work better). But this is only whim, like if you gave me your finger, I will ask for all the hand for sure, and you can ignore my caprices. You did a very good job.

btw, I used the table to look for sequences with no drivers and no reservation and 5 digits, and found out 73512, to which I already added few terms in the last minutes (last big factor found instantly by yafu's pm1 step). Please reserve this sequence for me, I will work it until it gets rid of 7, changes the power of 2, gets a 73 (from 2^9-1), or reaches 130 digits, in which cases I will unreserve it, or until it ends, whichever come first :D.

Dubslow · 2012-08-06, 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubslow

It seems that it's now been a week since the "Recent Progress" column was added, so that 43.70% of sequences updated in the last week should hover around there, plus or minus a few tenths of a percent, until YAFU@Home shuts down.

Well, while YAFU@Home doesn't seem to have shutdown, it's throughput appears to be dropping, as that prediction is apparently completely wrong.

Between that and a new feature I wanted to add, the script has been reorganized to query the last ID and only check the actual sequence page if the ID is fully factored, as henryzz suggested a while ago.

The new feature is pretty awesome I think, though not the most obvious ever

It will however slowly become more and more obvious over the course of the next week, so: 10 virtual cookies to anyone who can figure out what the new feature is

Here's a hint: The extra feature requires an extra query per sequence for the next week, at which point we can reconsider increasing the update rate beyond 55 per hour.

Edit: Evidence a re-organization was in order: Despite adding the new feature and slightly more complicated logic, the new version is actually 8 lines shorter than the old one

10metreh · 2012-08-06, 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubslow

The new feature is pretty awesome I think, though not the most obvious ever

It will however slowly become more and more obvious over the course of the next week, so: 10 virtual cookies to anyone who can figure out what the new feature is

"Recent progress" now shows dates before July 20. (by checking in the DB when the last index was created?)

Dubslow · 2012-08-06, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10metreh

"Recent progress" now shows dates before July 20. (by checking in the DB when the last index was created?)

I suppose it was still obvious enough

Yes, I figured out the URL used for the "More Information" button on a number's page, and pulling the date out is easy peasy lemon squeezy.

2012-08-01, 18:11	#67
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 1110000110101₂ Posts	I do wish the thread title fiddling would remain in the "Extra/Other Stuff" areas. PS: Placement issue resolved. Enjoy Last fiddled with by Dubslow on 2012-08-01 at 18:14

2012-08-04, 05:43	#74
LaurV Romulan Interpreter Jun 2011 Thailand 21674₈ Posts	I think so, it should stay the same. Now it is very easy to search for a range, then sort them by size, etc, then one can get exactly what he wants, very fast, with only few clicks. Where can some more work be done: ingoring the space/whitespace in columns (for example I want to type "2^235" and not "2^2 * 3 * 5"), this way the searching algorithm will be more refined (for the given example, it shows also sequences with 3^2 and no 5, or no 3, if he finds 3 and 5 in different columns. That is why eliminating the spaces would work better). But this is only whim, like if you gave me your finger, I will ask for all the hand for sure, and you can ignore my caprices. You did a very good job. btw, I used the table to look for sequences with no drivers and no reservation and 5 digits, and found out 73512, to which I already added few terms in the last minutes (last big factor found instantly by yafu's pm1 step). Please reserve this sequence for me, I will work it until it gets rid of 7, changes the power of 2, gets a 73 (from 2^9-1), or reaches 130 digits, in which cases I will unreserve it, or until it ends, whichever come first :D. Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2012-08-04 at 05:48

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2012-08-03, 09:15	#68
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 3×29×83 Posts	It seems that it's now been a week since the "Recent Progress" column was added, so that 43.70% of sequences updated in the last week should hover around there, plus or minus a few tenths of a percent, until YAFU@Home shuts down.

2012-08-03, 18:11	#69
fivemack (loop (#_fork)) Feb 2006 Cambridge, England 7·911 Posts	Would it be reasonable to ask for an 'exclude reserved sequences' button on the front page? Less reasonably, I'd quite like a range filter, so I can see things like 'unreserved sequences at 130-140 digits starting with numbers between 10000 and 100000' - you can't do that with combinations of sorts because the sort-by-size disrupts the sort-by-start.

2012-08-03, 20:12	#71
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 3·29·83 Posts	Well the second half wasn't very interesting. The filtering should work now. The problem is that the table redraws every time the user unpresses a key, which can create some visual lag in the boxes filling out. I have code in to use a button instead. Which do you guys prefer?

2012-08-04, 03:52	#72
LaurV Romulan Interpreter Jun 2011 Thailand 2²×2,287 Posts	We don't give a dime for how many times the table redraws itself. Remember we don't work locally, but remotely, and for us the lag is anyhow longer, caused by the internet speed (the table need a while to load anyhow, and that you can't control there). So, as long as the info in the table is correct, and filtered according with our preferences, then let the table redraw itself 5 times for each click... who cares? We don't want to play HD movies or online games on your web page... LaurV and the Sat morning coffee...