20170928, 08:18  #1 
Sep 2002
Oeiras, Portugal
5B4_{16} Posts 
Where have all the TF results gone?...
I noticed that the "Recent Cleared" Primenet Report is not showing any (Trial)Factored results. Any idea why?

20170928, 16:33  #2 
"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!
2×3×1,693 Posts 
(OT. Sorry, I can't let this question go by.)
Where have all the TFs gone? Long time passing Where have all the TFs gone? Long time ago Where have all the TFs gone? Gone to DCs every one. When will we ever learn? When will we ever learn? 
20170928, 18:52  #3 
1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3^{2}×5×103 Posts 
This has 619 factored in the last day...though I can't speak for the time since you first posted.
http://www.mersenne.ca/status/tf/0/1/1/0 And considering the ranges I suspect most were TF Last fiddled with by petrw1 on 20170928 at 18:52 
20170928, 19:17  #4 
Einyen
Dec 2003
Denmark
2×1,567 Posts 
141 previously unfactored exponents was factored in the last 24 hours before your post.

20170928, 19:45  #5 
1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3^{2}·5·103 Posts 
14 Factors in the most recent ... Recent Results (about 3 hours) (Not FPM1 and Not FECM)
https://www.mersenne.org/report_recent_results/ But 0 in the most recent ... Recent Cleared which has a much wider window of time reported (this one 6 days) https://www.mersenne.org/report_recent_cleared/ So we are finding factors but they are not showing up on the Cleared report. And since the factors are for larger exponents 89700M and NOT from TJAOI they are almost certainly First Factors. Last fiddled with by petrw1 on 20170928 at 19:47 Reason: Last line 
20170928, 19:50  #6 
1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
11033_{8} Posts 
However, currently two of our biggest factorers from the past are not currently factoring.
ANONYMOUS (The big one) Air Squirrels 
20170928, 20:08  #7 
Sep 2002
Oeiras, Portugal
10110110100_{2} Posts 

20170928, 20:14  #8 
Sep 2002
Oeiras, Portugal
2^{2}·5·73 Posts 
Yes, thatÂ´s it. Only FPM1 and FECM are making their way to the report. The TFs are being recorded but not displayed. Madpoo will most probably have some plausible explanation.

20170928, 21:42  #9 
1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3^{2}·5·103 Posts 
If something needs to be "tweaked" anyway I would vote for defining a F result as worthy of the Recent Cleared Report only if it is a First Factor for that Exponent.
That is, cleared from the list of potential exponents needing LL tests. The subsequent factors could still be reported on the Recent Results Report. Same would go for FPM1 or FECM. Who's with me? 
20170928, 22:45  #10  
Sep 2003
2×5×7×37 Posts 
Quote:
Recent Results contained everything, including unsuccessful factoring attempts (types NF, NFPM1 and NFECM) . There is so much stuff in there that the hourly report is often truncated. Recent Cleared contains only residues and new factors. Only types C, F, FPM1 and FECM. If "Cleared" is confusing, then the title should be changed, not the content of the report. Maybe "Recent Findings". Every new factor is a find, and every residue result has nonzero value, even a redundant triplecheck of an already doublechecked residue, simply because residues risk being erroneous and are laborious to verify, so every confirmation is a contribution. (Whereas reporting the same factor twice has no value at all, because factors are utterly trivial to verify). 

20170928, 23:45  #11 
Sep 2002
Oeiras, Portugal
1460_{10} Posts 
I agree with GP2. Only redundant factors (e.g the ones reported over and over for exponent 4096) should not be displayed in the report. Everything else repesents some form of progress, no matter how "glamorous" it might be.

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