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2020-05-15, 14:10   #144
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 Originally Posted by Happy5214 If you've ever looked at my reservations, you'll find that almost all of my work involves filling in gaps in the old RPPDb. My primary foci right now are the RPS 9th and 10 Drive k's and Woodall and near-Woodall k's. I run them through PRPNet servers, though I only have one computer (the aforementioned laptop) currently working on them.
I have only recently began looking at some of the assignments which individuals have. I found one which has 12. I thought I was being excessive with two, and on rare occasions, three.

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 Originally Posted by kar_bon Example: k=69 : highest prime n=6838971, nMax=2416000
This particular k has far larger primes than the highest n value. Values of n must not have been important back then.

 2020-05-24, 21:06 #145 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 1011001010002 Posts I'm currently working on trying to speed up the generating of the prime tables for Riesel primes. So I decided to extend a new parameter "RCount" to the Riesel prime template. If RCount is not given nothing changes in the handling. If RCount is given, there're two options: - RCount is the same as the automated counting -> no problem, everything ok - RCount differs from counting -> Alert shown like the attachement So please do always: - Creating new k-values now have to contain this new parameter. - Before saving any k-value use the "Show preview" button, which will show the alert before saving and the count, so you don't need to count by your own. Fill in the correct value and save. In the end when all k-values contain the RCount the template to create the tables will only use this parameter which should speed up the creation time. If this helps, other templates like Proth will changed, too. Attached Thumbnails
2020-05-25, 17:26   #146
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 Originally Posted by kar_bon ...Creating new k-values now have to contain this new parameter. - Before saving any k-value use the "Show preview" button, which will show the alert before saving and the count, so you don't need to count by your own. Fill in the correct value and save. In the end when all k-values contain the RCount the template to create the tables will only use this parameter which should speed up the creation time. If this helps, other templates like Proth will changed, too.
RCount is a verification of the number of items in RNList. Is this correct? I take it that the auto-count will go away? When creating a new k, RCount would be set to zero if RNList contains no entries.

The addition of RSieve will be helpful as it will indicate a k is not in process. I added this to one of mine which needs more sieving and is currently inactive. 98475.

 2020-05-25, 20:07 #147 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 54508 Posts RCount will become the value which will be taken when a k-value is shown in any overview table. The automated counting is only done in the template of the k-value page to be sure taking the correct value (this will stay). RCount will not set automatically (perhaps possible later). So creating a new k-value an entry without "RCount=" does not matter now, but this is noticed. The RSieve value is meant to show there's a sieve available for this k, which can be uploaded by everyone (the filename is generated). You can show the max n-value, sieve depth and number of candiates in the RRemarks parameter (as example see here).
 2020-05-25, 21:25 #148 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 23×3×7×17 Posts Again the sieve file: I've changed the handling, when creating a new k-value - new k-value for Riesel prime created (not saved yet, only "Show preview") with RSieve set (like "RSieve=y") - there is a red link "Upload me!" - right klick the link -> open in new tab - a new page pops up to upload the file with destination filename given - choose your local file - upload file - back to the k-value page - Show preview again - the link should become blue (available page) and is "(sieve)" now - save k-value page if anything is correct I've also included the parameter list with text into the Riesel template and a new category, when there're 100 n-value or more for this k-value (see here).
2020-05-25, 23:55   #149
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 Originally Posted by kar_bon ...The RSieve value is meant to show there's a sieve available for this k, which can be uploaded by everyone (the filename is generated). You can show the max n-value, sieve depth and number of candiates in the RRemarks parameter (as example see here).
Understood, and thank you for the reply. I removed the reference I made earlier. I always use "Show Preview" to make sure everything is proper before doing the actual save.

In your example link, there is a unit of measure, "21T." (K)ilo, (M)ega, (G)iga, (T)era, and (P)eta would be a guess. In this case, 21e12. To be honest, there are times when I would much rather sieve than test. All a person would need to do is pick a k and look at its ending n value and go from there.

 2020-05-27, 04:19 #150 sweety439     Nov 2016 22·3·211 Posts Williams prime PM table does not show the primes for bases 64, 128, 256, and 512 Done. Last fiddled with by kar_bon on 2020-05-27 at 08:24
 2020-05-29, 10:34 #151 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 23·3·7·17 Posts I've included templates for Proth prime base b (example here, smallest open SR5, Sierpinski side) and Riesel prime base b (example here, found SR5 prime, Riesel side). So every combination of k/base for Proth and Riesel are possible, helpful for PrimeGrid Sierpinski Riesel Base 5 Search or CRUS. Every base value creates it's own category for those k/base combinations. Category-Tree: - Riesel prime -- Riesel prime base 5 (here a general page for such base should be located, like a table of all k-values) ---- Riesel prime 5 1396 (= Riesel primes of the form 1396*5^n-1) As a preview for including General Fermat numbers (so Top5000 comments like "Divides GF(a,b)" or "Divide xGF(a,b,c)" are possible with links in the Wiki, see here only as texts) a page for Gen.Fermat k^262144+1 (=b^2^18+1) all known primes are listed, with data as a CSV file, so expandable without editing the page itself. Smaller exponents consists of way more values, so the page for example for b^2^16+1=b^65536+1 is the same size and all data saved as file. Last fiddled with by kar_bon on 2020-06-09 at 13:19 Reason: link corr.
 2020-06-19, 10:09 #152 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 23×3×7×17 Posts Some new changes: - There's now a small menu on top of every page instead of the info block. Links to helpful pages are now available for new users or even for a quick overview. Especially the "Template prototypes" should be used by every user when creating new prime pages: all current prototype are available for the implemented prime types. Using those won't miss any parameter or using false ones. Other links are still available in the left side menu. - There're two new categories for Riesel primes in the Wiki: 1) k-values without any Sophie Germain prime 2) k-values without any twin prime These only holds for k-values $k \equiv 0\ mod\ 3$ The conditions will be generated by the Riesel template, so could be take some time, if all k-values are updated by the Wiki.
2020-07-07, 07:36   #153
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 Originally Posted by kar_bon Some new changes: - There's now a small menu on top of every page instead of the info block. Links to helpful pages are now available for new users or even for a quick overview. Especially the "Template prototypes" should be used by every user when creating new prime pages: all current prototype are available for the implemented prime types. Using those won't miss any parameter or using false ones. Other links are still available in the left side menu. - There're two new categories for Riesel primes in the Wiki: 1) k-values without any Sophie Germain prime 2) k-values without any twin prime These only holds for k-values $k \equiv 0\ mod\ 3$ The conditions will be generated by the Riesel template, so could be take some time, if all k-values are updated by the Wiki.
The "twin prime pair" is a Riesel prime and a Proth prime with the same values of k and n, but the wiki only has category "Riesel prime without twin" and does not have category "Proth prime with twin", I know that they are the same values of k and n, but why only the Riesel primes have this category, but the Proth primes do not have?

Also, Sophie-Germain prime is two consecutive values of n for a fixed value of k for Riesel prime (k*2^n-1), why the wiki do not have the page of two consecutive values of n for a fixed value of k for Proth prime (k*2^n+1)? See the page http://harvey563.tripod.com/cunninghams.txt, the CK of Proth primes is 32469, which is mush larger than that of Riesell primes (807)

 2020-07-07, 09:39 #154 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 23×3×7×17 Posts The Wiki make high use of templates, which are still more in testing phase than complete. Over the last weeks I've changed the Riesel prime template for serveral issues and additions: - determine if a SopheiGermain is present - determine if a Twin is present - determine if a tested n-range is missing - determine if there's no prime - categorizing a k-value into special categories depending of such information - added parameter for counting n-values Those changes still in test-mode and others could implemented later. If all such changes needed are done, the same can be easily done for other templates like Proth. Before editing several templates for any change done, it's easier to test them on one template and be sure it's running properly. For Twins: As you can see, if any Twin is given in a Riesel k-value, it's shown as link to the Proth side... automatically! The same is done later on Proth side. Stop pushing others, try to clean "your" dozenal "wiki"!

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