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Old 2007-05-17, 07:10   #12
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I don't see why they shouldn't both get full credit for the work, since the 2 projects are really the same one.
Thast's the point. So why not make them TwinPrime/PrimeGrind instead of the 2 accounts TwinPrime and PrimeGrind
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Old 2007-05-17, 10:00   #13
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First, it's PrimeGrid, second, PrimeGrid won't only be doing TPS work in the near future, and TPS is already doing separate work without PG. PG+TPS is NOT a merged project, it's just one helping another one.
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Old 2007-05-17, 17:41   #14
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I don't think primegrid will ever find a top 5000 prime except for the TPS project. The finding small primes isn't related to finding a big prime. I vote for a merged TwinPrime/PrimeGrind account.
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Old 2007-05-17, 20:39   #15
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I don't think primegrid will ever find a top 5000 prime except for the TPS project. The finding small primes isn't related to finding a big prime. I vote for a merged TwinPrime/PrimeGrind account.
I think what rytis is refuring too is that primegrid might be starting another search soon that could find it.

Also Rytis is correct. These projects are two distinct seperate projects helping one another but both derserve credit for the primes found.

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Old 2007-05-18, 18:33   #16
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I think what rytis is refuring too is that primegrid might be starting another search soon that could find it.
Correct.
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Old 2007-05-20, 00:42   #17
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What's that going to be Rytis? Another twin prime search or a single prime search or something else?
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Old 2007-05-20, 11:27   #18
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Not a twin search. I don't have the details just yet, I'll let you know once I have decided myself :)
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Old 2007-06-08, 19:10   #19
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Unfairly to other "projects", the joint projects Twin Prime Grid and PrimeGrid are currently each getting full credit for the same work. This will most likely be adjusted soon.
So, the adjustment has been done, and TPS/PG have their prime count reduced by 2. However, the programs "LLR" and "NewPGen" are still each getting full credit for the same work. That is, if no other projects or individuals used LLR or NewPGen, LLR and NewPGen would still have a prime count of nearly 1000 on this page:

http://primes.utm.edu/bios/top20.php...&by=PrimesRank

and not a count of almost 500.

What gives? Why is one standard being applied for projects, and another standard being applied for programs?
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Old 2007-06-09, 08:37   #20
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I believe Chris Caldwell does this for "programs" as it highlights the importance of sieving and, even though sieving generally accounts for 5% of the overall computational effort when searching for primes, many new hunters underestimate the usefulness of sieving. You could approach him about this if you are unhappy about the way points are awarded for "programs"
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Old 2007-06-09, 20:22   #21
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Fair enough. But in some cases, like this one:

http://primes.utm.edu/bios/code.php?code=g372

two primality testing programs are used (PRP and Proth exe). Shouldn't they be forced to share credits too?

And in some cases, like this one:

http://primes.utm.edu/bios/code.php?code=SB10

3 :surprised sieving programs are used, and 2 primality testing programs are used. Despite this, all 5 programs get the same credit for doing only two things, primality testing and sieving. Why?
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Old 2007-06-09, 23:16   #22
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What do you propose to sort this out? My answer is: do nothing.

I know y'all must be sore over the PG/TPS point sharing adjustment, but still you now have nearly 1000 primes between you and will soon both be top of the "primes by count" table. Well done

Now where is that twin?

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