Abortion debate (moved from 2012 election thread) - Page 15

ldesnogu · 2022-06-28, 20:35

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Originally Posted by kriesel

Yes. https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/20...hobia-grenoble
Nominally it is to ensure public spaces provided by government are religion-neutral.

As I wrote there also are hygiene reasons and restrictions that apply to everyone. If all these rules are relaxed then burkini could be accepted I guess.

xilman · 2022-06-29, 07:55

Formally, the UK is a theocracy!

It has a state religion and the Monarch is the head of the religion. In principle, the Monarch has power over the elected government.

In practice, of course, it is nothing but.

The Monarch is a figurehead with immense influence and almost no practical power. The main power, AIUI, is that the armed forces swear loyalty to the Monarch and not to the government. I have heard it said, in all seriousness, by several middle-ranking soldiers, that if the government underwent a violent coup. or became too extreme in its activities, the army would intervene in the name of the Queen.

retina · 2022-06-29, 14:24

I want to go to France and wear a Burkini and a Catholic cross on a chain. Then watch as all heads explode in confusion.

Would I not be "religiously neutral", since I express both religions? What do you mean there are more than two? Those folks with the colanders on their heads don't make a real religion.

xilman · 2022-06-29, 15:08

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Originally Posted by retina

I want to go to France and wear a Burkini and a Catholic cross on a chain. Then watch as all heads explode in confusion.

Would I not be "religiously neutral", since I express both religions? What do you mean there are more than two? Those folks with the colanders on their heads don't make a real religion.

What about us Frisbeetarians?

retina · 2022-06-29, 15:12

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Originally Posted by xilman

What about us Frisbeetarians?

Who?

If WP doesn't have it then clearly you don't exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia...=Frisbeetarian

xilman · 2022-06-29, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by retina

Who?

If WP doesn't have it then clearly you don't exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia...=Frisbeetarian

The tenet of our belief is that after death the soul flies out of the body and gets stuck on the garage roof.

retina · 2022-06-29, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by xilman

The tenet of our belief is that after death the soul flies out of the body and gets stuck on the garage roof.

You are just trying to trick your way into keeping your soul out of hell. I can't say I know god very well, but I imagine she would see right through that ploy.

kriesel · 2022-06-29, 19:34

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Originally Posted by xilman

gets stuck on the garage roof.

Only practiced where buildings last for centuries, are roofed with clay tiles for longevity, and there are no windstorms, hurricanes, or tornadoes?

ixfd64 · 2022-07-06, 16:26

What are everyone's thoughts on ectogenesis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectogenesis

Instead of killing the fetus, you would let it gestate in an artificial womb. Some are saying this could settle the abortion debate once and for all.

rogue · 2022-07-06, 18:17

Many doctors are refusing to prescribe drugs to women of child-bearing age due to fear of prosecution:

https://qz.com/2185205/abortion-bans...and-lupus-too/

I know person with arthritis, now beyond child-bearing years, who could have been denied their medication since they were first diagnosed as a teen.

slandrum · 2022-07-06, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfd64

What are everyone's thoughts on ectogenesis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectogenesis

Instead of killing the fetus, you would let it gestate in an artificial womb. Some are saying this could settle the abortion debate once and for all.

And more unwanted children are dumped into the adoption/foster care system. I don't think it settles anything.

2022-07-06, 16:26	#163
ixfd64 Bemusing Prompter "Danny" Dec 2002 California 4676₈ Posts	What are everyone's thoughts on ectogenesis? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectogenesis Instead of killing the fetus, you would let it gestate in an artificial womb. Some are saying this could settle the abortion debate once and for all. Last fiddled with by ixfd64 on 2022-07-06 at 16:26

2022-07-06, 18:17	#164
rogue "Mark" Apr 2003 Between here and the 2·7²·71 Posts	Many doctors are refusing to prescribe drugs to women of child-bearing age due to fear of prosecution: https://qz.com/2185205/abortion-bans...and-lupus-too/ I know person with arthritis, now beyond child-bearing years, who could have been denied their medication since they were first diagnosed as a teen. Last fiddled with by rogue on 2022-07-06 at 18:19

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xilman Bamboozled! "𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭" May 2003 Down not across 2³×3×5×97 Posts	Formally, the UK is a theocracy! It has a state religion and the Monarch is the head of the religion. In principle, the Monarch has power over the elected government. In practice, of course, it is nothing but. The Monarch is a figurehead with immense influence and almost no practical power. The main power, AIUI, is that the armed forces swear loyalty to the Monarch and not to the government. I have heard it said, in all seriousness, by several middle-ranking soldiers, that if the government underwent a violent coup. or became too extreme in its activities, the army would intervene in the name of the Queen.

2022-06-29, 14:24	#157
retina Undefined "The unspeakable one" Jun 2006 My evil lair 2·3²·7·53 Posts	I want to go to France and wear a Burkini and a Catholic cross on a chain. Then watch as all heads explode in confusion. Would I not be "religiously neutral", since I express both religions? What do you mean there are more than two? Those folks with the colanders on their heads don't make a real religion.