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 2020-05-13, 21:52 #12 VBCurtis     "Curtis" Feb 2005 Riverside, CA 7×661 Posts You keep saying "calculating 2^{some 5-digit number}". What calculation are you doing? You don't need the decimal expansion to decide if it is prime. You also don't need to write your own software. So, what is it you want to do? I feel like you intend to find some primes, and then write (to disk? To screen? both?) out the decimal expansions of those primes. But you aren't even telling us what numbers you are checking. 2^50000 is obviously not prime; do you mean 2^50000 -1, or 2^50000 +1, or something else entirely? You mentioned fermat and mersenne primes- those have been checked to quite large values, and software is easily available if you wish to contribute to those searches. Why start over from scratch, which gives you no chance whatsoever to discover something previously unknown?
 2020-05-14, 02:07 #13 a1call     "Rashid Naimi" Oct 2015 Remote to Here/There 3×661 Posts Look at the link in post number 6. It's a program that you can download for free and set up. It's a calculator which can calculate any number you give it instantly. You don't need to write your own program. There is no theoretical limit on how big a number you can give it. The only limitation is your computer's memory. Regardless you can instantly calculate numbers with millions of digit. Proving then prime can take very long time. Days, months, years....
 2020-05-14, 06:50 #14 drmurat   "murat" May 2020 turkey 23×32 Posts okay . my method to calculate exponents of 2 is similar to used methods and it is slower than them . I am calculating all because maybe I catch a relation of them so I need a library what did I do until now . I achive 3 method to check primes . one is for twin primes and it is well known . one is primes and sont have advantag to clasicap method . one for 6 x k - 1 primes . in this method you dont use all primes until squareroot . but it cant reduce number of calculation. I worked on goldbach 4 ways for even numbers 2 ways to odd numbers I also calculatwd numbers until 10^7 but no one doesnt explain infinity I found a speciality of fibonacci numbers but I think it is known I am working two geometrical shape can be related with primes and some more I must look my papers I use simple maths for calculation thats all :) Last fiddled with by drmurat on 2020-05-14 at 06:57
2020-05-14, 08:28   #15
drmurat

"murat"
May 2020
turkey

7210 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by VBCurtis You keep saying "calculating 2^{some 5-digit number}". What calculation are you doing? You don't need the decimal expansion to decide if it is prime. You also don't need to write your own software. So, what is it you want to do? I feel like you intend to find some primes, and then write (to disk? To screen? both?) out the decimal expansions of those primes. But you aren't even telling us what numbers you are checking. 2^50000 is obviously not prime; do you mean 2^50000 -1, or 2^50000 +1, or something else entirely? You mentioned fermat and mersenne primes- those have been checked to quite large values, and software is easily available if you wish to contribute to those searches. Why start over from scratch, which gives you no chance whatsoever to discover something previously unknown?
2^50000 only a sample

2020-05-15, 18:39   #16
carpetpool

"Sam"
Nov 2016

2×163 Posts

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 Originally Posted by drmurat okay . I am not plannig to improve my coding . I am behind so many thing about primes . I am medical doctor . I know a bit coding . and intrested in with primes nearly 20 mounths .I do my calculations with my own . it has to reason fitst when I need data fot one process . getting whole data is hard . you must open so many zip files . make them as you want . it gets so time . the second reason making calculation with your own gives you a chance of oservation . I am asking here to calculating 2 ^70000 is hard . I realy dont know the answer .
You seem to have the right idea. You want to calculate 2^n for some integer n. However, this integer n is the one you want to test for primality, and not even 2^n, but 2^n mod n. (n may have, thousands, millions, and maybe even a billion digits). Look up modular or binary exponentiation.

If a does not divide n, n is prime --> a^n = a mod n --> a^(n-1) = 1 mod n

What happens when n is composite?

Last fiddled with by carpetpool on 2020-05-15 at 18:39

2020-05-15, 18:59   #17
VBCurtis

"Curtis"
Feb 2005
Riverside, CA

7·661 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by carpetpool You seem to have the right idea. You want to calculate 2^n for some integer n. However, this integer n is the one you want to test for primality, and not even 2^n, but 2^n mod n. (n may have, thousands, millions, and maybe even a billion digits). Look up modular or binary exponentiation.
If n is the exponent, as you have clearly indicated, n *cannot* have millions or billions of digits for any meaningful description or test for primality.

The number 2^n may indeed be as large as those descriptions, but the exponent 'n' cannot. 2 raised to a thousands-of-digits number is not an item we contemplate for primality testing, ever.

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