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Old 2003-05-06, 05:29   #1
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Default Making the forum more dial-up friendly...

I'm working with a few people to try to make the forum more dial-up friendly... So far I've put some of the display code on a diet and I've disabled avatars... If this works out I think it will be a fair sacrifice to make to enable some of our bandwidth-challenged friends join us...

Please let me know your thoughts on this, especially if you are on dialup... Even though dial-up users are in the minority anymore I think we still should do everything we can to accomodate their needs...
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Old 2003-05-06, 05:40   #2
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Question: Does GZIP compression help or hurt dialup users? Most modern modems and ISP's allow for data compression on the link; does trying to compress previously compressed (via GZIP) data have an appreciable negative effect on dialup users?
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Old 2003-05-06, 06:34   #3
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It doesn't change the amount transferred to dial-up users, but it does lower my bandwidth consumption by 20-30%... The compression modem users use is done entirely in the modem by hardware anyways...

I turned it off a few weeks ago as a test and nobody even noticed...

I've used this forum from dial-up before and found it to be very easy to use, but I also can get a solid 33.6K connection any time I want... Apparently there are places where 14.4K is considered good...
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Old 2003-05-06, 10:55   #4
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Ah, so that's where the avatars went.

Yeah, where I just moved, I'll connect either at 26.4kbps or 24kbps :( . Although it sounds like some others are even worse . I'll let you know if it works any better when I get a chance to access the forum from home.
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Old 2003-05-07, 12:44   #5
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Default Bring back the avatars!!

OK, I've accessed the forum from home, and even at 24k, there is not really a noticeable difference. See, when I click on a particular room or thread to view it, it takes about 15 to 20 seconds before I see anything. Adding avatars doesn't add to this time, because they are loaded after the page is displayed.

Anyway, my vote would be to bring back the avatars, because I like them, and because they don't seem to really make a difference in load times for dial-up connections.

And if someone has actually experienced having the pages take longer to display with avatars present, how 'bout we just make the file size restriction smaller, like 2kB?
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Old 2003-05-07, 18:08   #6
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Default Re: Bring back the avatars!!

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Originally Posted by eepiccolo
how 'bout we just make the file size restriction smaller, like 2kB?
Good grief! Do you have any idea, any idea at all, how much resolution is required to make both the cheesehead and the llama readily recognizable in an image of a cheesehead-wearing llama

With a 2kB limit I may as well use stick figures ... Hummphh!

;)
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Old 2003-05-07, 18:31   #7
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Default Re: Bring back the avatars!!

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how 'bout we just make the file size restriction smaller, like 2kB?
Good grief! Do you have any idea, any idea at all, how much resolution is required to make both the cheesehead and the llama readily recognizable in an image of a cheesehead-wearing llama

With a 2kB limit I may as well use stick figures ... Hummphh!

;)
Your avatar is the main reason I want them back, cheesy :D ;)
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Old 2003-05-08, 16:37   #8
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I've done it! My greatest creation! llama + cheese <=2kb

http://home.earthlink.net/~eepiccolo/images/llamasm.jpg

(Yes, I know I've got issues :( :( :( :( :( :( :( )
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Old 2003-05-08, 18:55   #9
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That's very nice, ee :)

Do you mind my referencing it from my profile?
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Old 2003-05-08, 19:47   #10
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Really?! I'm glad you like it!
I have plenty of personal webspace, so go right ahead.
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Old 2003-05-14, 07:35   #11
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I thought compression in winmodems was done in software. Of course, I doubt that's much worse than software decompression and compression done by a browser.
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