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Old 2022-05-30, 02:28   #947
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"The right to keep and bear arms" is an individual right, not dependent on being in a militia.
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The reason why for the second half of the sentence is the first half.
Again, how does a cannon on a ship fit into the first half?
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Old 2022-05-30, 12:34   #948
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A thought not based on any testimony:
Why did the teacher prop the back door open?
I bet the teacher went outside to have a smoke then all hell broke loose.
I have worked in numerous places in which employees sneak cigarettes
at the back of buildings because management doesn't like to present the
image of idle employees gathered around the front entrances creating a gauntlet
of nicotine vapors that visitors have to endure.
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Old 2022-05-30, 12:58   #949
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The real WTF is it being totally normal for schools needing to lock themselves in during class because of the potential dangers of random teenagers, or anyone really, being permitted to have such weapons.

You are aware that other countries don't have this concern, right? Where teachers and students never have to do "active shooter" drills.
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Old 2022-05-30, 13:28   #950
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The real WTF is it being
No sorry, the real "That can't be right!" is that gun violence has surpassed automobiles as the number 1 cause of death of children in the good old USofA. Any nation that doesn't address the #1 killer of their children has some serious explaining to do.
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Old 2022-05-30, 23:12   #951
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Another disgusting factoid I just learned today about Uvalde shooting,
The squad of police that FINALLY went in and terminated the shooter were federal officers.
Since they were federal, they didn't have to pay any attention to the orders of that local moron
to wait.

If they hadn't shown up, who knows how long it would have taken for any officer to go in?
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Old 2022-05-30, 23:31   #952
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If they hadn't shown up, who knows how long it would have taken for any officer to go in?
I have few words. Beyond, fsck me! (Please forgive me for speaking frankly, etc et al).

So... The "powers" that it is claimed "everyone" have a fundamental right to be afraid of were the ones who actually knew what to do.

And did it. Knowing the risks.

I have /heard/ that many parents begged the police to simply give them "kit", and the parents would do the job needed. The parents were willing to take the risk. The local police didn't like the "liability dimension".

"It's a funny old world.
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The squad of police that FINALLY went in and terminated the shooter were federal officers.
They were Boarder Patrol. That adds another layer of "WHAT the WHAT?"
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Old 2022-05-31, 01:22   #954
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I have /heard/ that many parents begged the police to simply give them "kit", and the parents would do the job needed. The parents were willing to take the risk. The local police didn't like the "liability dimension".

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In fact, the local yokels actually handcuffed one of the parents who was ready to charge the school.
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Old 2022-05-31, 08:34   #955
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Old 2022-05-31, 12:08   #956
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Hmmmm
The reason why for the second half of the sentence is the first half.
Again, how does a cannon on a ship fit into the first half?
I suggest you read the beginning of the Supremes' 2008 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller.

Also, keep an eye out for the ruling in the pending case New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen.

We need every school to have a fortified single point of entry! Paid for by Federal funds, of course. That way, the kids can be mowed down when they're lined up outside, waiting to go in. No need for a gunman to rely on a door being propped open to gain entry to the building. Plus, Federal funding would give the Feds a lot of control over local school matters.
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We need every school to have a fortified single point of entry! ... That way, the kids can be mowed down when they're lined up outside, waiting to go in. No need for a gunman to rely on a door being propped open to gain entry to the building.
And it makes it easier for the gunperson to escape the scene quickly and not be caught inside.
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