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Old 2020-08-12, 13:37   #1002
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In my post I said "He didn't muster out until 1946" so he did 6 years.
So you did. I did not read it correctly. My apologies.
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Old 2020-08-13, 03:15   #1003
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Which doesn't mean that for some generations, it isn't true. :)

I mean, a generation of smartphone-addicted screen-starers, and also the most overweight - at least in the US - in history.

Not that I'm blaming the kids, mind you - greedy corporations worked very hard to feed the various toxic addictions encompassed by the above, and a generation of overprotective "helicopter parents" did the rest.
That doesn't explain why other species, including feral or on measured rations in labs, are also increasingly obese. Something in the water? https://www.livescience.com/10277-ob...e-animals.html
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Old 2020-08-13, 19:45   #1004
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Yesterday, the UK took around 5000 death from its COVID death toll list...



From https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
  • 1,009 new cases and 20 new deaths in the United Kingdom. England has removed 5,377 deaths from its time series. fNOTE from the UK Government):
    "On 17 July, the Secretary of State asked Public Health England (PHE) to urgently review the way daily death statistics are currently reported.
    A review into the method used to calculate these figures considered a range of scientific evidence to identify the best time limit to apply between date of test and date of death.
    The new daily measure provides a UK-wide count of deaths under a consistent methodology for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales that has been endorsed by an external review.
    The measure will be based on a 28-day limit between the date of a positive lab-confirmed test and date of death. Deaths that occur more than 28 days after a positive test will not be included in the headline count." [source]
So people dying after hanging more than 4 weeks on an respirator do not count as COVID-deaths anymore?


Congrats Britain!
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Old 2020-08-13, 20:34   #1005
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That doesn't explain why other species, including feral or on measured rations in labs, are also increasingly obese. Something in the water? https://www.livescience.com/10277-ob...e-animals.html
The article does speculate as to possible causes toward the end - if I had to lay odds, I would guess the estrogen-mimicking chemicals humans have flooded the globe with (byproduct of plastic production) might be to blame. More-recent human generations would thus have the following triple whammy at work:

1. Processed food, esp. those loaded with high-fructose corn syrup and other "empty calories";

2. Ever-increasing sedentism;

3. Estrogen-mimicking chemicals.
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Old 2020-08-13, 21:12   #1006
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So people dying after hanging more than 4 weeks on an respirator do not count as COVID-deaths anymore?
In the larger organization that I work for, we had someone hang on for 45 days on a ventilator before dying of COVID.
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Old 2020-08-14, 00:30   #1007
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The article does speculate as to possible causes toward the end - if I had to lay odds, I would guess the estrogen-mimicking chemicals humans have flooded the globe with (byproduct of plastic production) might be to blame. More-recent human generations would thus have the following triple whammy at work:

1. Processed food, esp. those loaded with high-fructose corn syrup and other "empty calories";

2. Ever-increasing sedentism;

3. Estrogen-mimicking chemicals.
WRT #3, No need to mimic, what about estrogen itself and other hormones. This is a common component of birth control pills, for instance. I question whether water treatment plants can completely render them harmless. Also, many homes and cottages have septic tanks which will leave hormones intact.
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This is a common component of birth control pills, for instance. I question whether water treatment plants can completely render them harmless. Also, many homes and cottages have septic tanks which will leave hormones intact.
And so many other chemicals/drugs.

The answer is no and yes. Standard primary and secondary treatment can have almost no effect on those items. Tertiary has little to no effect on them. Advanced treatment and treatment systems for direct reuse (membrane bio reactors, RO, etc.) can have a good chance of clearing a major portion of them out of the water.
I don;t know if the UV exposure in a pond treatment system would help.

Septic tanks will disperse the water component to a leach field. The ground microbes may or may not do anything.

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