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Old 2022-11-24, 20:24   #23
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Off-topic: chalsall: I have a congenital L5 problem. I never knew about it until recently. Now, my lower back hurts somewhat all the time. Bending down gets rough on occasion. All of this started recently...
Have you tried moving to L4? It might help.

Changing to L1, L2 or L3 may be a bit extreme.
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In the civilized world it is called "football" because the game is played with a ball-shaped object which is primarily controlled and propelled by the feet.

In the US they don't realise that the sport they follow is really called "handegg".

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Have you tried moving to L4? It might help. Changing to L1, L2 or L3 may be a bit extreme.
To resonate with this... Always try to lift with your legs. Even when you are just lifting your own body.

My specialist is encouraging me to ice regularly. And doing careful back twists.

I do this on our concrete floors. Sholders on the floor, a leg crosses the other as far as the pain can be tolerated. Hold for as long as you can.

Then go the other way. Repeat as much as you can tolerate.

It hurts a lot. But I have found this actually works (given enough time).

Last fiddled with by chalsall on 2022-11-24 at 20:59 Reason: s/leg cross/leg crosses/;
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Old 2022-11-24, 21:06   #26
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Just for the record, many here in the U.S. dislike it being called "football." It's "soccer." The ball is round. I do not have to specify was a "football" looks like here.
Do you know why football is called soccer? No? Then let me enlighten you.

Time was, in the nineteenth century there was a game called football, played with a round ball and the only person who was allowed to handle the ball and pick it up when it was in play was the goalkeeper. Now, so the tradition goes, in 1823 a pupil of Rugby School (which was and still is a Public School, which as you must surely be aware means that it is a private fee-paying school) got fed up with this, so he picked up the ball and ran with it. Thus began rugby football, which developed in a different direction from the round-ball game and started using an egg-shaped ball.

Now, in 1863, the Football Association (FA) was founded to look after the rules/laws of the round ball game, which became known as Association Football. This was a Good Thing, as it allowed people to differentiate between the two forms of football just by adding the word Association or Rugby in front of the word Football.

People in public schools (i.e. private schools) like abbreviating things, especially those that are a right mouthful that you don't want to keep repeating every couple of sentences, and so Association was shortened to Soc and Rugby to Rug. This was followed by the generic Public School Abbreviation Ending of -er, and because we had never heard of the great American dictionary writer Noah Webster, the last consonant of the abbreviation was doubled before the -er was added, giving Soccer for Association Football and Rugger for Rugby Football.

You don't hear Rugger used much in the UK nowadays, but Soccer is still used. Having said that, the thing to remember is that Soccer is still football, and also that it was the first form of football to exist, so it has grandfather rights to the name Football.

Incidentally, the Australians have other ways of abbreviating words, and down under Football becomes Footy, no matter which code of non-soccer rules is used.

This short summary has necessarily left out a lot of things, such as the split of Rugger into Rubgy Union and Rugby League, and the other Public School Abbreviation Ending of -ers, which is used for abbreviations of people's surnames, e.g. Johnson becomes Jonners, etc., and many other things I could have mentioned, including how Abner Doubleday didn't invent baseball, but just codified a set of rules to move it away from the game of rounders which has been played in these sceptred isles by teams of schoolgirls for almost as long as football has been played here by men.
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Old 2022-11-24, 21:15   #27
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In the civilized world it is called "football" because the game is played with a ball-shaped object which is primarily controlled and propelled by the feet.

In the US they don't realise that the sport they follow is really called "handegg".
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I think you should start charging the members here for making the site entertaining.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/resourc...20L5%20follows.
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This short summary has necessarily left out a lot of things...
I thank you deeply for it. Sincerely.

IMO, those who forget history are . 8-)
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Do you know why football is called soccer? No? Then let me enlighten you.

I should also note that (association) footballers call rugby players egg-chasers, and rugby players call football wendy-ball, for the players' propensity to fall over at the slightest touch.


'Rugger' is still used, but mainly in ironic fashion
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I should also note that (association) footballers call rugby players egg-chasers, and rugby players call football wendy-ball, for the players' propensity to fall over at the slightest touch. 'Rugger' is still used, but mainly in ironic fashion
And they're all paid tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars a year.

For just kicking a ball around.

Kicking well, admittedly, but just kicking a ball in front of a fan base. Like you practiced for for months and years.

Where other people leverage on your skills... Selling your talent.

Sucks to be you.
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Have you tried moving to L4? It might help.

Changing to L1, L2 or L3 may be a bit extreme.
I fail to understand your meaning! This is my spinal column.
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I fail to understand your meaning! This is my spinal column.
I hope this explanation makes sense to you.

Only human. And... Wow... Back pain can be a bit intense.
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I fail to understand your meaning! This is my spinal column.
Think about it. You will get there eventually.

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