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Old 2010-06-28, 20:26   #1
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I am still working on a Mersenne with exponent in the 332,000,000 range. I tried to update the server with my work, and it said the assignments are no longer assigned to me. Luckily I had an old worktodo file that had SOME of the info still stored in it.

I just checked my mersenne.org profile, and I don't see the assignment.

How can I verify whether the exponent is still assigned to me? What do I do to get the exponents reassigned to me if they are not?
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Old 2010-06-28, 20:49   #2
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How can I verify whether the exponent is still assigned to me?
Go to Results queries -> Exponent status.
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Old 2010-06-28, 21:03   #3
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Go to Results queries -> Exponent status.
It says "no factor from 2^76 to 2^77 by "(MY NAME)" on 2009-05-16", but it doesn't say the exponent is assigned to me.
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Old 2010-06-28, 21:19   #4
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It says "no factor from 2^76 to 2^77 by "(MY NAME)" on 2009-05-16", but it doesn't say the exponent is assigned to me.
Then it's not assigned to you.
You should be able to get it assigned to you so you can report the results one of these ways: (preferably the first)
Go to http://www.mersenne.org/manual_assignment/, log in, and request the sort of work you're doing (TF, I suppose) on the exponent(s) you need to re-reserve (using the exponent range boxes). Use the worktodo.txt lines and assignment IDs it gives you. When you're done, make sure the clients communicated that directly to the server, or paste/upload the results in to http://www.mersenne.org/manual_result/
Put the worktodo.txt lines in clients without the assignment IDs and let it communicate it all to PrimeNet. If PrimeNet says there's a problem with the assignment (evidenced by Prime95 writing N/A in the file instead of an assignment ID), you should see what's up and go from there.
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Old 2010-06-28, 21:25   #5
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Wow, I just noticed the line:

AssignedLL testing to "S########n" on 2010-04-25
I'm actually 25% of the way through this assignment. I'm almost surely going to finish before this person. Is it possible to contact the person and let them know?

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Old 2010-06-28, 21:47   #6
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You should be able to get it assigned to you so you can report the results
You mean, "... so you can get credit for the result", I think.

dominicanpapi82 can always report the result, regardless of assignment.

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AssignedLL testing to "S########n" on 2010-04-25
I'm actually 25% of the way through this assignment. I'm almost surely going to finish before this person.
... setting up a classic GIMPS tragedy (* sigh *) where the holder of a re-assignment has the prospective first-time LL "demoted", while in progress, to a double-check when the original assignee checks in first.

(The mirror-image version has the actual assignee "scooped" by a poacher with a faster system.

Which ancient Greek playwright first explored these dramatic possibilities?)

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Old 2010-06-28, 22:30   #7
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Wow, I just noticed the line:

AssignedLL testing to "S########n" on 2010-04-25
I'm actually 25% of the way through this assignment. I'm almost surely going to finish before this person. Is it possible to contact the person and let them know?
I think you should abort this run and start a new one. It's not yours any more.

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Old 2010-06-28, 22:36   #8
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I think you should abort this run and start a new one. It's not yours any more.
Well, if he's already 25% of the way through, why throw all that out? Even though there will be overlap between his test and the current assignee's, whichever one is reported second will simply count as the doublecheck--so nothing goes to waste. Sure, the OP won't get credit for his test, but IMHO it's more important to maximize overall efficiency of operation than to maximize personal credit (which is just a number, after all).
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Well, if he's already 25% of the way through, why throw all that out? Even though there will be overlap between his test and the current assignee's, whichever one is reported second will simply count as the doublecheck--so nothing goes to waste. Sure, the OP won't get credit for his test, but IMHO it's more important to maximize overall efficiency of operation than to maximize personal credit (which is just a number, after all).
Because he would be forceing the other person to waste even more time. I am assuming they are mainly interested in the prize (kinda silly maybe but its the way things are).m If by some weird chance it is prime he will have stolen the prize from the oother guy.

If he really wants to run a doubole check he should wait till the first time result is in and get it assigned to him properly as a double check.

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Well, if he's already 25% of the way through, why throw all that out? Even though there will be overlap between his test and the current assignee's, whichever one is reported second will simply count as the doublecheck--so nothing goes to waste. Sure, the OP won't get credit for his test, but IMHO it's more important to maximize overall efficiency of operation than to maximize personal credit (which is just a number, after all).
As for wasting his old 25%, he did that when he quit for 6 months or more and allowed it to be reassigned. We can't just wait forever for these guys to get back around to us. When you quit you should accept the consequences. If the project as a whole has to accept a little wasted capacity, that's nothing special either.

Actually I expect the point will be mute, if he dropped out once before he probably will again without completing any result.
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Because he would be forceing the other person to waste even more time. I am assuming they are mainly interested in the prize (kinda silly maybe but its the way things are).m If by some weird chance it is prime he will have stolen the prize from the oother guy.

If he really wants to run a doubole check he should wait till the first time result is in and get it assigned to him properly as a double check.
Right, I see what you mean. I guess it depends on what one considers a "waste": someone mainly interested in the prize money probably would see a doublecheck as mostly a waste for him personally. I wonder if it's possible to reserve the exponent specifically as a doublecheck with the manual assignment page without having to wait for the currently assigned test to complete first? It's been done before, such as with StarQwest's 100M test on which doublechecking began while the first test was still in progress, IIRC. (Then again, that was before Primenet v5, so that may be entirely moot now.)
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