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 2011-12-31, 09:24 #12 schickel     "Frank <^>" Dec 2004 CDP Janesville 2×1,061 Posts Spamming the thread....here is a start on one of RJ Mathar's diagrams using graphviz. Code looks like this: Code: digraph G { "17p" [shape=plaintext]; 1425 [shape=plaintext]; 455 [shape=plaintext]; 775 [shape=plaintext]; 1055 [shape=plaintext]; 39 [shape=plaintext]; 55 [shape=plaintext]; 217 [shape=plaintext]; 329 [shape=plaintext]; 473 [shape=plaintext]; 533 [shape=plaintext]; 713 [shape=plaintext]; 36 [shape=plaintext]; 24 [shape=plaintext]; 2245->455 4873->455 2465->775 3845->775 775->217 847->217 3177->1425 1425->1055 3153->1055 3625->1055 711->329 3487->329 2335->473 1771->533 2127->713 39 -> "17p"; 55 -> "17p"; 217 -> 39; 3383 -> 217; 3743 -> 217; 1055 -> 217; 4439 -> 217; 455->217 329->55 473->55 533->55 629->55 713->55 24->36 36->55 } I don't see how to draw a cycle, though, since it only draws acyclic graphs. So just 1.000.000 lines to add and then see how big a poster you need to print it on. (Just to build a tree with merges & terminations, and only if you show where each number goes to, not each line of a sequence.....) Imagine what a live, 3D, zoomable render of the full sub-1M dataset would look like Attached Thumbnails
2011-12-31, 12:31   #13
science_man_88

"Forget I exist"
Jul 2009
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by schickel Spamming the thread....here is a start on one of RJ Mathar's diagrams using graphviz. Code looks like this: Code: digraph G { "17p" [shape=plaintext]; 1425 [shape=plaintext]; 455 [shape=plaintext]; 775 [shape=plaintext]; 1055 [shape=plaintext]; 39 [shape=plaintext]; 55 [shape=plaintext]; 217 [shape=plaintext]; 329 [shape=plaintext]; 473 [shape=plaintext]; 533 [shape=plaintext]; 713 [shape=plaintext]; 36 [shape=plaintext]; 24 [shape=plaintext]; 2245->455 4873->455 2465->775 3845->775 775->217 847->217 3177->1425 1425->1055 3153->1055 3625->1055 711->329 3487->329 2335->473 1771->533 2127->713 39 -> "17p"; 55 -> "17p"; 217 -> 39; 3383 -> 217; 3743 -> 217; 1055 -> 217; 4439 -> 217; 455->217 329->55 473->55 533->55 629->55 713->55 24->36 36->55 } I don't see how to draw a cycle, though, since it only draws acyclic graphs. So just 1.000.000 lines to add and then see how big a poster you need to print it on. (Just to build a tree with merges & terminations, and only if you show where each number goes to, not each line of a sequence.....) Imagine what a live, 3D, zoomable render of the full sub-1M dataset would look like
I was thinking more a table/matrix recently but I can see what you are talking about, it could possibly been done with something like familyecho.com or ancestry.com . a cycle of 2 is like a grandchild named after there grandparent. quite linear the problem is it isn't going to fit in with all the other sequences in the tree.

Last fiddled with by science_man_88 on 2011-12-31 at 12:58

2011-12-31, 14:11   #14
science_man_88

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by science_man_88 I was thinking more a table/matrix recently but I can see what you are talking about, it could possibly been done with something like familyecho.com or ancestry.com . a cycle of 2 is like a grandchild named after there grandparent. quite linear the problem is it isn't going to fit in with all the other sequences in the tree.

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2011-12-31, 16:12   #15
EdH

"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009

5·11·61 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by schickel ... So just 1.000.000 lines to add and then see how big a poster you need to print it on. (Just to build a tree with merges & terminations, and only if you show where each number goes to, not each line of a sequence.....) Imagine what a live, 3D, zoomable render of the full sub-1M dataset would look like
Thanks for all the info. This is kind of what I was thinking of. I'll be back after some study...

2011-12-31, 16:16   #16
science_man_88

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by EdH Thanks for all the info. This is kind of what I was thinking of. I'll be back after some study...
EDH I made a familyecho.com account if you want to start adding data.

 2011-12-31, 18:37 #17 schickel     "Frank <^>" Dec 2004 CDP Janesville 2·1,061 Posts Ooooh.....this looks interesting. WebDot is a server-side CGI that can serve up pix on demand. Clickable nodes is almost what is called for. Each node could have a list of what seed numbers pass through it.....'course building something like that would be a monumental task.
2011-12-31, 20:14   #18
science_man_88

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by schickel Ooooh.....this looks interesting. WebDot is a server-side CGI that can serve up pix on demand. Clickable nodes is almost what is called for. Each node could have a list of what seed numbers pass through it.....'course building something like that would be a monumental task.
95 put up on the account I made.

2011-12-31, 21:10   #19
firejuggler

Apr 2010
Over the rainbow

2·7·173 Posts

Here is a graph by graphviz
Contain all of the sequences fromthe ' merge/teminate' thread
merge not included
Attached Files
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2011-12-31, 21:13   #20
science_man_88

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by firejuggler Here is a graph by graphviz Contain all of the sequences fromthe ' merge/teminate' thread merge not included
figures you're fast lol

Last fiddled with by science_man_88 on 2011-12-31 at 21:21

2011-12-31, 21:58   #21
EdH

"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by firejuggler Here is a graph by graphviz Contain all of the sequences fromthe ' merge/teminate' thread merge not included
Now, that, I like!

You guys are coming up with some good stuff.

The clickable nodes looks good as does the familyecho.com, but, yes, it would entail a whole lot of work. Of course, an automated version is what is needed.

Here's what I envision - let me know what you guys think:

1. create a program to query the db for all merges - this would be a long term project
2. have the program write the graphviz code - let's try to be less manually intensive**
3. periodically run the program against all OE sequences and update the graphviz file as needed
4. or, have the program provide whatever data is needed to update familyecho or some other choice of tree type

**@firejuggler: did you automate the file or manually enter the data?

 2011-12-31, 22:23 #22 firejuggler     Apr 2010 Over the rainbow 242210 Posts unfortunatly, I have manually entered the data. wich mean it's prone to mistake. but the fact that you can use Code: A->B->C->D ....>prime E->C F->G>B make it less intensive (you don't have to rewrite the whole chain, just up to the point where it merge)

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