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2021-01-02, 00:40   #199
Happy5214

"Alexander"
Nov 2008
The Alamo City

32×7×11 Posts

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 Originally Posted by henryzz Ctrl-F5 didn't do anything for me.
That should be Shift+F5, since Ctrl+Shift+R also works and Ctrl+R == F5.

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 Originally Posted by kar_bon I've change from SimpleMathJax V0.8.0 to V0.8.2 and set $wgSmjUseCDN to false. Please check now. It works for me on Chromium. Last fiddled with by Happy5214 on 2021-01-02 at 00:42 2021-01-02, 00:42 #200 henryzz Just call me Henry "David" Sep 2007 Cambridge (GMT/BST) 133718 Posts Quote:  Originally Posted by kar_bon I've change from SimpleMathJax V0.8.0 to V0.8.2 and set$wgSmjUseCDN to false. Please check now.
Brilliant that has fixed it for me. Thank you

 2021-05-28, 01:21 #201 sweety439   "99(4^34019)99 palind" Nov 2016 (P^81993)SZ base 36 290510 Posts The download link in page srsieve is broken. Done Last fiddled with by kar_bon on 2021-05-28 at 19:29
 2021-06-21, 06:52 #202 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 23×3×112 Posts I'm planning to make a greater change for the handling with Riesel and Proth templates: To avoid using two different templates for 'normal' Riesel/Proth numbers (base=2) and General Riesel/Proth numbers (base>2) I will add a new parameter for the base into the templates. Therefore the page-naming for Riesel/Proth numbers will change, too, including the base, so from "Riesel prime 125" to "Riesel prime 2 125" and from "Gen Riesel prime 5 2" to "Riesel prime 5 2", same manner for Proth side. This means an easier way in handling those templates (two instead four). Unfortunately all links to a special k-value outside the Wiki won't work anymore and I will not create any redirects. This will be done first for the Proth side (small amount of pages), later Riesel side is done. I've also managed to store information of General Fermat numbers, but still need some more templates (Fermat numbers) and testing, so please don't add more GFN-divisibilites to any Proth number. A test can be seen here to create tables like on prothsearch.com.
 2021-06-22, 01:13 #203 Happy5214     "Alexander" Nov 2008 The Alamo City 32×7×11 Posts Banning redirects on the Prime-Wiki will not work in the long run. Aside from that, I have an unrelated question related to the templates. What's the purpose of having the R/P prefix on all of the Riesel/Proth template arguments? It seems superfluous, since its meaning is provided by the template call being used, and it requires extra work to add the prefix letter. Does DPL require all field names to be unique across templates?
2021-06-22, 11:40   #204
kar_bon

Mar 2006
Germany

55308 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Happy5214 Banning redirects on the Prime-Wiki will not work in the long run.
Sure, I can... I'm the admin..
There are only a few redirects for some abbreviations like GIMPS.
But I will not include ~2700 redirects for the Riesel number pages when including a "2" as base in the title.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Happy5214 Aside from that, I have an unrelated question related to the templates. What's the purpose of having the R/P prefix on all of the Riesel/Proth template arguments? It seems superfluous, since its meaning is provided by the template call being used, and it requires extra work to add the prefix letter. Does DPL require all field names to be unique across templates?
The prefix for any template is for making them unique over the Wiki. There's no extra work for including a "P", the templates are shown in the template prototype page for copy/paste.
To keep them unique is better: have in mind to replace a text of any page with some other text. Say you want to rename a special parameter in all Riesel prime pages, there's a function to do so.
Or including a new parameter, that's what I can do when including the base as new parameter.
Searching for such parameters is another reason. Some templates using the "R" or "P" to make the output depending on the type, too.

I've created a template for "Gerneralized Fermat numbers" to show some data and the dates/names for found factors from "GF Divisor"s.
F(38) is an example with links to the corresponding Proth number and the GF Divisors. Perhaps some more data to show there.

2021-06-23, 02:00   #205
Happy5214

"Alexander"
Nov 2008
The Alamo City

32·7·11 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by kar_bon Sure, I can... I'm the admin.. There are only a few redirects for some abbreviations like GIMPS. But I will not include ~2700 redirects for the Riesel number pages when including a "2" as base in the title.
I mean, sure 2700 is overkill, but redirects are cheap in the database. If there are any actually existing external links to the wiki you're aware of that you know would be broken, can you at least leave redirects for those? Certainly that would be a much more reasonable number.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by kar_bon The prefix for any template is for making them unique over the Wiki. There's no extra work for including a "P", the templates are shown in the template prototype page for copy/paste. To keep them unique is better: have in mind to replace a text of any page with some other text. Say you want to rename a special parameter in all Riesel prime pages, there's a function to do so. Or including a new parameter, that's what I can do when including the base as new parameter. Searching for such parameters is another reason. Some templates using the "R" or "P" to make the output depending on the type, too.
I guess that makes sense.

 2021-07-07, 12:57 #206 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 290410 Posts I've managed to store and display "Long numbers", using the FactorDB-IDs and shortcuts. This was needed to collect and display all types of Generalizes Fermat numbers of the forms a^2^n+b^2^n. Example: At the page for the Proth prime 3*2^n+1 the notes for n = 41 contains links to a page (GF Divisor) and showing the first entry (here Fermat(38)). The old type using a template for all entries did not worked if there were more than 20 entries, so now an own page. The page for the GF Divisor 3*2^41+1 contains all divisibilities to all GFn's including dates found and discoverers, if available. Finally the page for the Fermat(38) contains all data derived from the GF Divisor pages, links to them and the factorization. The category of this GFN's now contains tables for: - differences n-m - GF numbers: including state and factorization - GF Divisors: k- and n-value and discoverers Perhaps here some further work has to be done, like different pages for the big tables or small changes to the 3rd table. All data taken from Wilfrid Keller's pages, but the advantage here, all data contain links to other pages (like Proth primes, Persons, FactorDB entries) to find more data easily and creating/updating the last 3 tables automatically, if new GF Divisors/GF numbers are stored in the Wiki. Last fiddled with by kar_bon on 2021-07-14 at 06:04
 2021-07-14, 06:28 #207 kar_bon     Mar 2006 Germany 23×3×112 Posts I've changed/updated the template for Proth primes (k*b^n+1) including the base as parameter and in the page name. So there's no need to use a "Gen Proth prime" template (see also the "Template protoypes" page). Some other templates used for Riesel and Proth are not yet fully updated (like showing the k-type in a table), but will follow. Many other pages linked to those Proth primes were updated (like Williams) and some project pages. Now every base of Proth primes will get their own category with some cub-cats and pages from now on. There's no need to use redirects for old pages, because if an old page in not found like Proth prime 3 (without base in page name), a link as "search the related logs" is available and shows the moving of this page to a new one. I will now start the same procedure for the Riesel prime pages, which will take some more time. So perhaps many pages will show errors, because I've to change the Riesel template to work with first. This all will make the handling and updating of those templates much easier in the future (2 templates instead of 4 and some other used templates easier). I will inform here, when the moving of all pages is complete and related pages are updated, too. Be patient.
 2021-07-25, 06:30 #208 Happy5214     "Alexander" Nov 2008 The Alamo City 32×7×11 Posts I don't know if anyone else has an issue with regular users not being able to edit in the template namespace. It's ultimately my fault (I advised Karsten to protect certain high-visibility templates, e.g. {{Riesel prime}} and {{Vn}}, and he made the whole namespace admin-only for editing), but there may be value in allowing regular users to edit lower-value templates. Heck, we can't even create or experiment in template sandboxes or edit the documentation! If having regular users edit production templates is undesirable, perhaps Wikipedia's template editor right could serve as a model, opening up the namespace as a whole (meaning brand new and unused templates, documentation, sandboxes, and possibly testcases) to all users and restricting edit permissions on the production templates to "template editors" (or admins for the most important templates).

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