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Old 2007-04-19, 18:10   #1
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Default Iran Exonerates Six Who Killed in Islam’s Name

In today's New York Times. Excerpt:
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According to the Supreme Court’s earlier decision, the killers, who are members of the Basiji Force, volunteer vigilantes favored by the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, considered their victims morally corrupt and, according to Islamic teachings and Iran’s Islamic penal code, their blood could therefore be shed.

The last victims, for example, were a young couple engaged to be married who the killers claimed were walking together in public.

Members of the Basiji Force are known for attacking reformist politicians and pro-democracy meetings. President Ahmadinejad was a member of the force, but the Supreme Court judges who issued the ruling are not considered to be specifically affiliated with it.

Iran’s Islamic penal code, which is a parallel system to its civic code, says murder charges can be dropped if the accused can prove the killing was carried out because the victim was morally corrupt.

This is true even if the killer identified the victim mistakenly as corrupt.
Yes, it's enlightened live-and-let-live attitudes like that that convince me it's really in the world's interest to allow Iran to build a nuclear weapons arsenal. Surely they would only ever use such weapons if they had a compellingly good reason, just like the members of the above-mentioned Basiji militia only slaughter people for really good reasons, like say, happening to be young and in love. With a nuclear-armed Iran, valid reasons for them using their new weapons on other countries would include things like "happening to be named Israel," "being a lackey of the Americans," and "being morally decadent." Great reasons to nuke your neighbor, all of them.
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Old 2007-04-19, 22:46   #2
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The last victims, for example, were a young couple engaged to be married who the killers claimed were walking together in public.
Yes indeed, that is a terrible thing to happen. How can the world possibly tolerate two people walking together in public?! Everybody should be locked away in separate cages forced to do whatever tasks have been proscribed for them. The only question that arises is: who watches the watchers?

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Old 2007-04-20, 12:51   #3
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forced to do whatever tasks have been proscribed for them.
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Now that would be unusual punishment! Whether it would be cruel and unusual punishment would depend strongly on what has been proscribed.


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P.S. I know, I know --- with my spelling I'm also living in a glass house.

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Old 2007-04-20, 18:12   #4
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P.S. I know, I know --- with my spelling I'm also living in a glass house.
Indeed - as the saying goes, people who live in grass houses, shouldn't stow thrones.
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Now that would be unusual punishment! Whether it would be cruel and unusual punishment would depend strongly on what has been proscribed.


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General Norman Schwartzkof when asked if he thought there was room for forgiveness toward the people who have harbored and abetted the terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks on America:
"I believe that forgiving them is God's function. Our job is simply to arrange the meeting."
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General Norman Schwartzkof when asked if he thought there was room for forgiveness toward the people who have harbored and abetted the terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks on America:
"I believe that forgiving them is God's function. Our job is simply to arrange the meeting."
http://www.snopes.com/military/norman.htm
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