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2022-03-19, 15:47   #3554
Dr Sardonicus

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 Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus Three times in a week you have mischaracterized what others have said: ... If you want to quote others, do so only verbatim, by using the "quote" feature this Forum provides. DO NOT make statements about what other people said or what they believe.
Good advice in general. I might add to it: read more, post less. Tuckerkao needs to learn that we aren't interested in every stray, random thought that momentarily enters the space between his ears. In fact, we are mostly annoyed by the vacuous posts.

I am willing to disregard what is merely annoying. But misquoting others in reckless disregard for the truth is worse than merely annoying. Brazenly lying about it is even worse.

Unfortunately, this user seems to be a slow learner. He has chosen to be recidivist. This is the second time I've resorted to the Clue Bat to try to get his attention.

Taught to the tune of a hickory stick

 2022-03-21, 15:31 #3555 LaurV Romulan Interpreter     "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 37×271 Posts I am with Dr.S. here, ban well deserved.
 2022-03-26, 14:21 #3556 kriesel     "TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17" Mar 2017 US midwest 150268 Posts TF & P-1 slowing next first-test milestone Three users have several P-1 or many TF assignments indicating no progress in the last exponents remaining to 109M primality testing milestone. The P-1 assigned to one user will expire in a few days, so no big deal there. The TF ~60 count assigned 2022-01-20 and 2022-03-03 to two users in what is now the lowest ~100 not yet PRP tested don't expire until July or August. https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...00000&exdchk=1 And slight random sampling shows the assigned TF are unnecessary; checked exponents were already TF a bit level higher than mersenne.ca's GPU72 level before the latest unneeded TF assignments now interfering with progress. Last fiddled with by kriesel on 2022-03-26 at 14:21
2022-03-26, 17:22   #3557
Uncwilly
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by kriesel Three users have several P-1 or many TF assignments indicating no progress in the last exponents remaining to 109M primality testing milestone.
Zhang Ruichong has been making progress through their list. Those were all previously assigned to others and had expired. The other exponents below the 109M that had stuck P-1's I took care of off the books.

2022-03-26, 18:09   #3558
kriesel

"TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17"
Mar 2017
US midwest

2·32·7·53 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Uncwilly Zhang Ruichong has been making progress through their list.
Thx. I've looked repeatedly, and have yet to see any of those P-1 indicated as under way, but haven't spent much time at it.

 2022-03-26, 19:23 #3559 slandrum   Jan 2021 California 6708 Posts Zhanh Ruichong has been clearing several of the PM1 assignments each day, the ETAs on them appear to be accurate. In addition, most (if not all) are on exponents that have already had FTC done. On ones with TF, nranks assignments are not blocking first time checks, they are on exponents that have already had FTC. SWL551 on the other hand has grabbed assignments that haven't had FTC done on them. At least this time around they didn't grab hundreds of assignments in the cat 0/cat 1 range. I haven't been watching them to see if they are clearing, but it's been over 2 months since they were assigned. Last fiddled with by slandrum on 2022-03-26 at 19:25
 2022-03-26, 20:12 #3560 kriesel     "TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17" Mar 2017 US midwest 2·32·7·53 Posts So: Too many getting PRP without adequate or any P-1 first, and too many without proof generation failing to avoid a 100% effort PRP-DC. We've had PRP proof generation capability in prime95 (v30.3) since Sep 2020, gpuowl since June 2020 v6.11-318. Last fiddled with by kriesel on 2022-03-26 at 20:17
 2022-03-27, 05:04 #3561 Zhangrc   "University student" May 2021 Beijing, China 2·7·19 Posts They have all been tested at least once, so I'm not delaying any of the milestones. You see, most of them have been tested by WR, although without P-1 and CERT.
2022-03-27, 05:16   #3562
Zhangrc

"University student"
May 2021
Beijing, China

2·7·19 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by kriesel So: Too many getting PRP without adequate or any P-1 first, and too many without proof generation failing to avoid a 100% effort PRP-DC.
Seems that they are getting PRP without any P-1.

Code:
v308	108356371	F-PM1	2022-03-23 02:25	8.5	Factor: 996452764760981189944109089 / (P-1, B1=471000, B2=41197002)	18.0118
v308	108327223	F-PM1	2022-03-21 03:26	6.5	Factor: 2101743747139768387760441 / (P-1, B1=439000)	2.6107
v308	108320761	F-PM1	2022-03-17 09:51	2.8	Factor: 60009555748293413447823073 / (P-1, B1=463000, B2=40465194)	17.6942
3 factors were found in about 50 trials.
And the factor of 108327223 is smooth enough that could be found by bounds as low as B1=50000, B2=100000.
The only possible explanation is that they had no prior P-1 done.

Last fiddled with by Zhangrc on 2022-03-27 at 05:20

2022-03-27, 12:49   #3563
kriesel

"TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17"
Mar 2017
US midwest

2·32·7·53 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Zhangrc most of them have been tested by WR, although without P-1 and CERT.
Doubly unfortunate. I wonder why WR is doing that. Seems pretty wasteful, both of WR's resources, and of whoever eventually cleans it up afterward. 50 PRP; 50 P-1 (~1.5 PRP equiv); 47 PRP DC. (Total PRP equiv 98.5)

Best practice would be TF first to suitable level; P-1 next to adequate bounds, then PRP with proof generation. Just under half the total PRP equiv resources required this way as the above way; 50 P-1 (~1.5 PRP equiv); 47 PRP & proof gen; 47 cert (~0.2 PRP equiv). (Total PRP equiv 48.7; 2x = 97.4)

Last fiddled with by kriesel on 2022-03-27 at 12:49

 2022-03-27, 15:34 #3564 kriesel     "TF79LL86GIMPS96gpu17" Mar 2017 US midwest 1A1616 Posts DC milestone delay The lone last DC assignment before the 60M DC milestone is reached was reassigned to an account that has made zero progress so far, with a projection of expiration before completion (8 d vs 10). https://www.mersenne.org/report_expo...9917901&full=1 https://www.mersenne.org/assignments...rst=1&excert=1 A RadeonVII could complete it in several hours.

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