Quiet. - Page 2

Batalov · 2013-12-26, 01:44

"Меня только что зарезало трамваем на Патриарших. Похороны пятницу, три часа дня. Приезжай. Берлиоз"

retina · 2013-12-26, 02:08

It might be my fault. I turned down the volume on speakers.

swl551 · 2013-12-26, 03:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBtarheel_33

GIMPS is officially over. After a 4-hour transatlantic Skype session, fraught with spammy YouTube links and nebulous arguments framed in bold, oddly-colored fonts, George finally agreed with David that not only TFing to 74, but indeed, that looking for Mersenne primes at all, was a complete waste of time and energy that would be better spent on analyzing the patterns of gum embedded in the heels of random Londoners' shoes.

Yeah, so, it's been a fun almost-eighteen years. But now is the time to move on to bigger and better things.

But seriously folks, Merry Christmas to you all. Look forward to crunching with you all and a new discovery ahead in 2014!

can you point us to a transcript of this conversation?

kladner · 2013-12-26, 06:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batalov

"Меня только что зарезало трамваем на Патриарших. Похороны пятницу, три часа дня. Приезжай. Берлиоз"

Is this anywhere close? If so, what are "the Ponds?"

Quote:

"I've just been run over by tram at the Ponds. Funeral Friday, three in the afternoon. Come. Berlioz"

Batalov · 2013-12-26, 07:48

You've made the first step, yes. ;-) this is how google translates it because it probably has access to some version of the original text and uses neural networks.
The Patriarch's Ponds are a small pond in Moscow.
And the quote is a fragment (telegram, really) from Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita.

chappy · 2013-12-26, 07:52

Patriarch Ponds perhaps, though I'm led to believe there is on just the one pond.

And no trams run there, but that wouldn't stop a tragedy would it? We could find out more, but I find it a good policy to never talk to strangers.

http://cr.middlebury.edu/Bulgakov/PUBLIC_HTML/PPondsmap2.html

Batalov · 2013-12-26, 08:22

P.S. There's no way google could have translated the phrase correctly if not for the association search. "Зарезало" means "I've been cut" (as if with a knife), and in the context, indeed the Berlioz character looses his head under the tram. There's no way to translate that as "run over by tram" if not by matching the text from the database.

Now, it gets interesting. How did he send this telegram you might ask? ;-) (maybe like kracker?) Oooh, it's a long story. Most people say that M.Glenny tranlation is good, or maybe that of Karpelson (which is unavailable in press). I just flipped through the opening pages of the Burgin translation; looks ok. Pevear translation doesn't look bad either... Hmm, this will be a long evening, because I like to be thorough. I'll have to read them all now. ;-)

kracker · 2013-12-26, 18:06

My soul will haunt you the rest of your life...

davieddy · 2013-12-27, 06:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBtarheel_33

GIMPS is officially over. After a 4-hour transatlantic Skype session, fraught with spammy YouTube links and nebulous arguments framed in bold, oddly-colored fonts, George finally agreed with David that not only TFing to 74, but indeed, that looking for Mersenne primes at all, was a complete waste of time and energy that would be better spent on analyzing the patterns of gum embedded in the heels of random Londoners' shoes.

I hope you realize how near the mark that is.

One of us is encouraging LL testing and the other is just optimizing Prime95.

Happy New Year.

2013-12-26, 07:52	#17
chappy "Jeff" Feb 2012 St. Louis, Missouri, USA 13·89 Posts	Patriarch Ponds perhaps, though I'm led to believe there is on just the one pond. And no trams run there, but that wouldn't stop a tragedy would it? We could find out more, but I find it a good policy to never talk to strangers. http://cr.middlebury.edu/Bulgakov/PUBLIC_HTML/PPondsmap2.html Last fiddled with by chappy on 2013-12-26 at 07:56 Reason: beaten to the punch by a Batalov.

2013-12-26, 18:06	#19
kracker "Mr. Meeseeks" Jan 2012 California, USA 879₁₆ Posts	My soul will haunt you the rest of your life... Last fiddled with by kracker on 2013-12-26 at 18:06 Reason: -l

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2013-12-26, 01:44	#12
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 9,391 Posts	"Меня только что зарезало трамваем на Патриарших. Похороны пятницу, три часа дня. Приезжай. Берлиоз"

2013-12-26, 02:08	#13
retina Undefined "The unspeakable one" Jun 2006 My evil lair 6120₁₀ Posts	It might be my fault. I turned down the volume on speakers.

2013-12-26, 07:48	#16
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 22257₈ Posts	You've made the first step, yes. ;-) this is how google translates it because it probably has access to some version of the original text and uses neural networks. The Patriarch's Ponds are a small pond in Moscow. And the quote is a fragment (telegram, really) from Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita.

2013-12-26, 08:22	#18
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 9,391 Posts	P.S. There's no way google could have translated the phrase correctly if not for the association search. "Зарезало" means "I've been cut" (as if with a knife), and in the context, indeed the Berlioz character looses his head under the tram. There's no way to translate that as "run over by tram" if not by matching the text from the database. Now, it gets interesting. How did he send this telegram you might ask? ;-) (maybe like kracker?) Oooh, it's a long story. Most people say that M.Glenny tranlation is good, or maybe that of Karpelson (which is unavailable in press). I just flipped through the opening pages of the Burgin translation; looks ok. Pevear translation doesn't look bad either... Hmm, this will be a long evening, because I like to be thorough. I'll have to read them all now. ;-)