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 2005-09-07, 08:55 #23 Numbers     Jun 2005 Near Beetlegeuse 22×97 Posts Having seen the SoB wiki I take back everything I said - earlier in this thread - about sections. When there's not a lot of stuff there it is a useful way for the user to navigate around and find what he wants. There is obviously going to be a lot of discussion about how "hard" the maths either is or should be presented. Some people will feel that if you don't know what modulo means, for example, then it's up to you to find out if you are sufficiently interested. Others will feel that part of what the wiki is about is education. But I think it's fairly obvious that at some point we have to draw the line and expect the reader to know something about the subject. So maybe we can draw the line in different places according to the complexity of the topic being discussed. It would, for example, be almost impossible to say anything useful about selecting polynomials for ECM factoring without using some advanced maths. But, as I hope my article on the Lucas-Lehmer test shows, this is not essential for all topics but can be incorporated for those who need it.
2005-09-07, 09:01   #24
xilman
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May 2003
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Numbers according to the complexity of the topic being discussed. It would, for example, be almost impossible to say anything useful about selecting polynomials for ECM factoring without using some advanced maths.
Minor typo there -- I think you meant NFS and not ECM.

Paul

2005-09-07, 12:51   #25
Prime Monster

Aug 2002

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Numbers There is obviously going to be a lot of discussion about how "hard" the maths either is or should be presented. Some people will feel that if you don't know what modulo means, for example, then it's up to you to find out if you are sufficiently interested. Others will feel that part of what the wiki is about is education. But I think it's fairly obvious that at some point we have to draw the line and expect the reader to know something about the subject. So maybe we can draw the line in different places according to the complexity of the topic being discussed. It would, for example, be almost impossible to say anything useful about selecting polynomials for ECM factoring without using some advanced maths. But, as I hope my article on the Lucas-Lehmer test shows, this is not essential for all topics but can be incorporated for those who need it.
If you want to add a page on a complex or advanced math piece, just start with an overview that explains the concept in an easy manner. The point with a wiki is that you can add anything you like, to whatever level you want, just mark the page as advanced with links to easier material where that is needed. This easier material does not need to be added at the same time. The wiki itself will note that there is a page requested for whatever material you think should go in there.

 2005-09-08, 13:59 #26 Prime Monster     Aug 2002 22×5×13 Posts Hi everybody, It is time to go to work!!!! The Mersenne Wiki is now operational, and needs contributions for contributors (yes, that is you ). Take a look at the Wanted Pages if you do not know where to start. Personally I am working on adding a GIMPS FAQ to the Wiki. I used to have one a long time ago, so it is probably full of mistakes and errors, but at least it is a start. I am also transferring the content of the "New to GIMPS" thread. PM
 2005-09-08, 14:14 #27 jinydu     Dec 2003 Hopefully Near M48 6DE16 Posts How do I indicate that an article is a "stub"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub
 2005-09-08, 14:57 #28 ixfd64 Bemusing Prompter     "Danny" Dec 2002 California 22·3·191 Posts You have to create a template for stub notices. Then, the template could be imported onto the article.
 2005-09-08, 15:10 #29 OmbooHankvald     May 2005 Copenhagen, Denmark 172 Posts I have tried doing so. Try writing {{stub}}
 2005-09-08, 16:55 #30 ixfd64 Bemusing Prompter     "Danny" Dec 2002 California 22·3·191 Posts You'll also need the page "template:stub".
2005-09-08, 20:40   #31
OmbooHankvald

May 2005
Copenhagen, Denmark

172 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ixfd64 You'll also need the page "template:stub".
Been there, done that (hopefully).

 2005-09-09, 08:07 #32 OmbooHankvald     May 2005 Copenhagen, Denmark 4418 Posts Help! How do you create a new article? I can, if I see a red link, click on it to create a new article, but I cannot find any other way of doing it. On Wikipedia, when you search for something and no articles are found it asks if you want to create the new article. It doesn't do that here. Why?
2005-09-09, 10:09   #33
Prime Monster

Aug 2002

22·5·13 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by OmbooHankvald How do you create a new article? I can, if I see a red link, click on it to create a new article, but I cannot find any other way of doing it. On Wikipedia, when you search for something and no articles are found it asks if you want to create the new article. It doesn't do that here. Why?
You open a link to a non-existant page, lets say "example page", in the browser using this url:

Code:
http://www.mersennewiki.org/index.php/Example Page
Then select edit on that page. The wiki will change that to

http://www.mersennewiki.org/index.php/Example_Page

and the page will be created when you save the edit.

PM

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