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Old 2020-12-05, 16:26   #12
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We rendered the "BMW" demo file in Blender last night. We didn't know what to expect, but our 3950X system could render that scene in less than a minute.

The time? 5 hours, 44 minutes and 21.22 seconds!

The time with 64-bit Linux? 1 hour, 7 minutes and 19.48 seconds!

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Old 2020-12-05, 16:47   #13
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I use 0kB swap files. I find I never need to swap. I think it is a "solution" looking for a problem when the system has plenty of RAM.
You nailed it.

What about the case when "plenty of RAM" is not economically viable?

I try very hard not to run out of RAM in anything I do.
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Old 2020-12-05, 17:27   #14
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What about the case when "plenty of RAM" is not economically viable?
Stop using those ridiculous RAM hogging browsers. There, I just doubled everyone's available RAM.

If that isn't enough then you get what you pay for. Using HDD/SSD is a terrible substitute for RAM. Sit back and enjoy your hot beverage while you wait for each keypress to be processed.
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Old 2020-12-06, 12:24   #15
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...There, I just doubled everyone's available RAM.
How much RAM do you have?
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Old 2020-12-06, 12:43   #16
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How much RAM do you have?
Plenty.

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Old 2020-12-07, 03:35   #17
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We have an angry RAM with a RAM CAM.
(well, not anymore, in fact, he died some time ago, rest in peace, but I could not stop myself, after retina's reply)
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Old 2020-12-07, 05:45   #18
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Plenty.
Ewe have plenty of rams on the island that your evil lair is on?
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Old 2020-12-07, 05:58   #19
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Ewe have plenty of rams on the island that your evil lair is on?
Aha, I see you are trying to surreptitiously discover if My Evil Lair is on an island!

It might not be "on" anything. It could be "under". Or "over". Or "inside". Or "virtual".

Anyhow, I'm getting plenty of ram ... um, I meant to say, I've got plenty enough RAM to not need a performance killing swap space. Obviously the amount needed varies with which programs are run. But a good first step is to kill that popular browser and use something much lighter.
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Old 2020-12-07, 14:34   #20
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Back in the day, there was a text-based web browser called lynx. Back then, it was the transmission rate of a dialup modem, rather than the amount of RAM in the computer, that made lynx seem so much faster than any graphics-based browser. Besides -- even when my ISP was down, I could dial up my public library's online card catalog, go from there to a university library's card catalog, and there gain access to the lynx browser. I could then check on what was wrong at my ISP, and go to any web site whose address I could type in or navigate to. That sucker left graphics-based browsers in the dust.

As to resource-hoggong software, I defer to the late Arthur C. Clarke:

CLARKE LAUNCHES `3001: FINAL ODYSSEY'
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Clark's voice and image, at 4 to 5 images a second, joined a panel discussion at the University of Illinois' Cyberfest '97 in Urbana, HAL's "birthplace." At the conference, Clarke chose his preference for HAL's first words: "Good morning, doctors. I have taken the liberty of removing Windows 95 from my hard drive."
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Old 2020-12-09, 20:16   #21
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Back in the day, there was a text-based web browser called lynx. Back then, it was the transmission rate of a dialup modem, rather than the amount of RAM in the computer, that made lynx seem so much faster than any graphics-based browser. Besides -- even when my ISP was down, I could dial up my public library's online card catalog, go from there to a university library's card catalog, and there gain access to the lynx browser. I could then check on what was wrong at my ISP, and go to any web site whose address I could type in or navigate to. That sucker left graphics-based browsers in the dust.
I prefer links2 for its more advanced HTML rendering.
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