Water security

[xilman]

Originally Posted by Nick

Meanwhile, in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia (Trail of the Lonesome Pine, anyone?)
Press article: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45054961

On the Trail of the Loathsome Slime is the version I prefer.

[Dr Sardonicus]

Al Qaeda's fanatical religious ideologues dreamed of poisoning whole city water supplies in the USA. They couldn't do it.

Republican ideologues right here in the good ol' USA achieved what foreign terrorists could not. And ruined the whole distribution system to boot.

Michigan plans to charge ex-Gov. Snyder in Flint water probe

Snyder, a Republican who has been out of office for two years, was governor when state-appointed managers in Flint switched the city's water to the Flint River in 2014 as a cost-saving step while a pipeline was being built to Lake Huron. The water, however, was not treated to reduce corrosion - a disastrous decision affirmed by state regulators that caused lead to leach from old pipes and spoil the distribution system used by nearly 100,000 residents.

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[tServo]

Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

Al Qaeda's fanatical religious ideologues dreamed of poisoning whole city water supplies in the USA. They couldn't do it.

Republican ideologues right here in the good ol' USA achieved what foreign terrorists could not. And ruined the whole distribution system to boot.

Michigan plans to charge ex-Gov. Snyder in Flint water probe

Most people have heard about the lead poisoning, but as your linked article points out and the one I have below, Legionnaire's was a big killer. NPR counts at least 70 deaths ( probably more ) while the state only reported 12. This was also caused by the poorly treated water.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...-water-crisis/.

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[storm5510]

Originally Posted by tServo

Most people have heard about the lead poisoning, but as your linked article points out and the one I have below, Legionnaire's was a big killer. NPR counts at least 70 deaths ( probably more ) while the state only reported 12. This was also caused by the poorly treated water

I watched a documentary on Netflix a while back called "Poisoned Water." All of this because the powers-that-be in Flint wanted to save a few pennies. After the problem started, city officials went into denial mode.

The first time I heard the term "Legionnaire's Disease" was back in the 1970's. It was found in a large cooling system for a hotel in Bloomington, Indiana. Several died, but not as many as in Flint. I did not know about this aspect of the problems in Flint until I read the quoted section above. The documentary does not mention it.

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[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by tServo

Most people have heard about the lead poisoning, but as your linked article points out and the one I have below, Legionnaire's was a big killer. NPR counts at least 70 deaths ( probably more ) while the state only reported 12. This was also caused by the poorly treated water.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...-water-crisis/

That's a good point.

Make that two things Republican ideologues achieved that Al Qaeda could not - poisoning an entire city water supply, and causing an outbreak of a deadly disease, right here in the good ol' USA.

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[storm5510]

Ex-governor, 8 other former Michigan officials charged in Flint water crisis.

Criminally charged it says. About time!

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[Dr Sardonicus]

Originally Posted by storm5510

Ex-governor, 8 other former Michigan officials charged in Flint water crisis.

Criminally charged it says. About time!

Two counts of willful neglect of duty. It's only a misdemeanor. The maximum penalty for each count is one year in prison and a thousand dollar fine. I guess we should take what we can get.

If a foreign government had done what the Governor of Michigan and his cohorts did - poisoned an entire city water supply and ruined the distribution system, leading to an outbreak of a deadly disease - the United States would have declared war.

He's pleaded Not Guilty. That's what's known as "adding insult to injury."

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[Nick]

Originally Posted by storm5510

Ex-governor, 8 other former Michigan officials charged in Flint water crisis.

Criminally charged it says. About time!

There's a thread for that!

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[Nick]

Lake Mead: Largest US reservoir dips to record low
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57436860

[tServo]

Originally Posted by Nick

Lake Mead: Largest US reservoir dips to record low
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57436860

As are most of the reservoirs out West. The piper's bill is coming due for a century of massive unregulated growth.
For the history of this madness see the definitive book "Cadillac Desert" :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Desert

If you only want to spend a couple of entertaining hours, you should watch the most excellent film "Chinatown" starring Faye Dunaway and. Jack Nicholson. Also, John Houston plays a William Mulholland type figure.

I can't believe there are plans underway to build a couple of huge silicon fab plants in Arizona, of all places. What will they do when those multi billion dollar facilities stand empty due to no water.

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by Nick

Lake Mead: Largest US reservoir dips to record low
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57436860

That is only sort of news. The levels have been going down for a long time. When the Hoover Dam was built the Western US was in an abnormal wet period. So the levels of water entering and exiting were unusual and should not have been considered the norm long term. That was the period where Los Angeles was getting destructive flooding of its river frequently.
Los Angeles has realised that they can't rely on external water completely forever. At one point in the 1990's or so it got 15% of its water from inside its borders. And now it is looking at harvesting all of its wastewater to change that. https://www.nrdc.org/experts/tracy-q...led-water-plan
The efficiency of water use in the are and the usage of reclaimed water in the area is high and getting higher.