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Old 2012-02-11, 07:25   #540
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Ah yes that was fun to watch
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Dolphins hitch rides on whales in rare playful display between species

this came from yahoo through a link. the only thing I can think of is circus trained ?

edit 2: maybe a hybridization routine ?

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Old 2012-02-12, 14:18   #542
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Dolphins hitch rides on whales in rare playful display between species

this came from yahoo through a link. the only thing I can think of is circus trained ?

edit 2: maybe a hybridization routine ?
Something I can think of, which may have escaped your attention: both species are highly intelligent and play amongst their own communities all the time. Occasionally they meet in non-threatening circumstances and play together because playing is fun.

Why do you feel the need to invent a complex reason when a simple one appears to fit the observations?
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Something I can think of, which may have escaped your attention: both species are highly intelligent and play amongst their own communities all the time. Occasionally they meet in non-threatening circumstances and play together because playing is fun.

Why do you feel the need to invent a complex reason when a simple one appears to fit the observations?
it's obvious isn't it obviously I fail at the cycle have knowledge -> apply knowledge to new situation-> gain knowledge-> repeat
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Old 2012-02-12, 20:07   #544
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Something I can think of, which may have escaped your attention: both species are highly intelligent and play amongst their own communities all the time. Occasionally they meet in non-threatening circumstances and play together because playing is fun.

Why do you feel the need to invent a complex reason when a simple one appears to fit the observations?
Quite so.

And a friend of mine brought this from Douglas Adams to my attention:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/811
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Old 2012-02-12, 20:13   #545
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Something I can think of, which may have escaped your attention: both species are highly intelligent and play amongst their own communities all the time. Occasionally they meet in non-threatening circumstances and play together because playing is fun.

Why do you feel the need to invent a complex reason when a simple one appears to fit the observations?
BECAUSE HYBRIDS ARE AWESOME


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Old 2012-02-23, 23:57   #546
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Combat Photobombers Everywhere

probably going to get nailed for this one too but I think WTF is this news ? it basically becomes a take video and overlay frames so that the most common pixel colour for that area shows through and hence the problem because erasing someone who is standing basically from the photo still may be difficult by that method.
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Old 2012-02-24, 03:59   #547
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Combat Photobombers Everywhere

probably going to get nailed for this one too but I think WTF is this news ? it basically becomes a take video and overlay frames so that the most common pixel colour for that area shows through and hence the problem because erasing someone who is standing basically from the photo still may be difficult by that method.
I saw something similar to this years ago. A guy would set up his camera, but make the aperture let in very little light and also make the exposure really long. He'd managed to tweak his techinique to the point where he'd get a perfect photo, but everything that wasn't in the same place for more than a few seconds didn't show up in the photograph. At the time, they called it the "ghost effect" since it could take places like Times Square and give you a picture without any people in it.

Now, of course, people just say meh to this sort of thing. It's like phoning someone from out in public. In the 80s it was awesome to see that, but now nobody gives a damn.
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China to soften its one-child policy slogans, but not the law itself


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"Caring for the girl means caring for the future of the nation."
"Please get rid of the alcohol and cigarettes before you plan to be a father."

I think the fact that scares me is that the slogans just change the points they're harsh on not how harsh they are.

has the Chinese government thought about transplant patients ( a near relative may be a good bit of help), what they are depriving the people of (not just people to get transplants from, within a few generation nobody has the joy of having first cousins or aunts and uncles,next generation brings the loss of second cousins etc.)
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Do you know how many people there are in China? Being harsh is something different, but in the base of things they have a pretty decent reason for having the law.
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Do you know how many people there are in China? Being harsh is something different, but in the base of things they have a pretty decent reason for having the law.
Hey, I worked in China for few years at the end of the last century. I saw how the people live, how they think, what they do and what they believe. I don't give a sheep on the communist government, they are barely in control in the most areas, which are in fact controlled by "local lords". I am a big fan of China. I made money betting on renminbi against established western currencies. And well... some will jump on my head, but in a war with US, I won't bet on US... Who says that US is the country of all possibilities, he never been in China. There lays the country where you can get anything and you can do anything, if you have the right money and if you know the right people. They have built cities - not houses, cities! - that run for endless squared and squared kilometers, which are empty. With everything inside, buildings, electricity, gas, shops, etc, just no people. I asked my colleagues why they don't move there and their argue was "it is lonely". They do not have a "space" or "overpopulation" problem. Believe me, this law is STUPID. And they are more and more forced to renounce at this law, as they are forced to renounce their writing system. There are three problems in China, and I could talk about them for ages. I really studied it, not only from the armchair, but on the field also.

The smallest problem is the restriction to travel. Chinese railroad stations are like airports, guarded, you need to show special permission to go from a province to the other, etc. and people are generally "local-educated", they know nothing about what's going on in the near provinces. For example there was a time when the students could travel free between Guangdong and Hainan. You just need to show your student ID. The student ID was a nice colored piece of paper with your photo. So many not-students used to xero-copy the ID of student-friends (with a photo placed over on the copy machine) and travel with it, than the railroad clerk only knew the black-and-white copies of the IDs. There were cases when real students, with real color ID were taken out from the train because the controller never saw a color ID in his life and said that is a fake.

The second problem there is related to their writing system. The "pictorials" help the memory and the intelligence of the young people. Comparing with a westerner, the average Chinese child/teenager is more intelligent. He has a better memory and can solve small problems faster. A Chinese will know few thousands of the "pictorials" at the age when a westerner would still struggle to learn 26 letters and generally the "view" of the world would be more mature for a Chinese. Later on they go to high-school, and learn another few thousands. They can read a novel book or a newspaper, and understand the writing messages from their friends, because all of them learn mainly the same signs. But then, the most gifted of them go to universities. The one gifted in biology will go to the biology university, and will learn another 3-4 thousands "pictorials" related to biology. The one gifted in electronics would go o the electronics university, and will learn another 3-4 thousands "pictorials" related to electronics and physics. They are not only different, but they are pronounced different, they mean different things. An English man can read an English word that he never saw, even if his understanding of the word would be only partial. A Chinese not only will not understand the word, but he could not read it. He would not know if a pictorial should be read as "ma" or "liu" or "pong" if he never saw that pictorial. I had colleagues engineers who were really good in electronics and computers, but they were not able to read an aspirin prescription. They said "this is something about medicine, I can see symbols for body or some chemicals, but I don't know what is it, or how to read it". That is why Chinese people never "invent" anything. Their last inventions are the paper kites, the compass and the gun powder, all done hundreds of years ago. We live in a time when a single guy can't invent something, unless he is a real-real genius. It is the time when the inventions are made by teams. There is always an engineer, a mathematician, a doctor, a biologist, a good manager, etc, some combination of them put together and having a dialog at high level. This high level dialog is impossible in Chinese. The doctor not only will have no idea what the mechanic is talking about, but he won't even be able to understand the talking. It will sound for him as Chinese sounds for any of you. In the same time, the pictorial writing make the undergrad people more clever, as I said before. That is why they are so good in refurbishing and copying stuff, combined with the fact that the average Chinese has a very good attitude towards the work. I remember once I was driving to a nearby city, there were about 500 guys with hammers trying to break the cement wall built between the highway's lanes. This was the one really strong an thick, about one meter tall, with iron cores inside, and I was thinking they would need a week or so (they did a branch to a new bridge). When I came back in few hours there was no Chinese and no wall. About one kilometer of wall was gone. They probably worked like in Popeye the Sailor... They built the longest highway in the world in one year and 8 months... That is not a two-lanes, one for each sense, but a 3 and 4 lines for each sense, with bridges who in some places have 6 stories (some u-turn going under, other cross going over, etc, you throw can't throw a needle from the highest street that would hit the ground below without falling on another street).

The third and the biggest Chinese problem lays exactly in this natality (birthrate) control that was the starting point of this discussions. I saw (with my own eyes) the police car coming in the village and taking women to the hospital, to force them to have abortion and tubal ligation, because they were pregnant with a third child. On the other hand, it is easier to have an abortion (we have here on this forum a topic about abortion, isn't it?) - after I come to Thailand I found that Thai women go to China to have abortion, as Chinese doctors became really specialists in that, and here is prohibited. This birthrate control is not only bad for Chinese, but on long term is a disaster. So called 4-2-1 problem. Slowly, China is running out of work force. People are getting old, and there is no pension system there, or social insurance. I won't elaborate much, I could write a book about China from economical, political or cultural point of view, but you do not have to believe me... It took me a while to find one of Gary North's masterpieces, but on his page is for members only - I am member - you can look for a copy, usually there are always copies of his articles spread on the web, so you can read for yourself. If you are interested in some economic stuff, trading, etc, that article is a must to read.

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