20031219, 23:48  #1 
Dec 2003
Belgium
5·13 Posts 
How to only do Trial Factoring?
Do i have to adjust settings somewhere if i just want to do trialfactoring? Or should i abbandon when it starts with an LLtest? Also could i adjust the bits uptil where it factors? When i check the status, i see some numbers have been checked for factors up to 72 bits, what is optimal for checking? And how long would it take on a pentium 4 2.4Ghz to trial factor up to 72 bits (regarding you don't find a factor)
michael 
20031219, 23:54  #2 
Aug 2002
2·3·53 Posts 
The top side factoring bits are built into the program, so you don't need to change them. If you want to, look into undoc.txt in your prime95 folder. But it is best to leave them as is.
To select trial factoring only, open the prime95 window, go to "Test", click on "PrimeNet" and then check ONLY the "Request Mersenne numbers to Factor". This sets you up to do trial factoring only. 
20031220, 01:36  #3  
Sep 2003
3×863 Posts 
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If your computer is currently doing an LL test, it will continue that to completion unless you unreserve it (using the advanced features of the Prime95 menu). 

20031220, 01:47  #4 
Dec 2003
Belgium
5·13 Posts 
I don't have advanced options ... yet? How do i get them?
michael 
20031220, 05:17  #5 
Aug 2002
476_{8} Posts 
Go to "Advanced" and you will see "Password", type in 9876 and hit enter. Then go back in and you will see the "Advanced" menu.
Just for fun, how much work have you completed on the LL test? 
20031220, 08:42  #6 
Dec 2003
Belgium
65_{10} Posts 
Done around 4 million iterations, I will complete this test...
I just thought i'd be more productive doing trialfactoring, i guess i need to play a bit with the program, look around for the options and see what suits me best. Just that now it started with the LucasLehmer test it looks like i'm hooked to that for now, can't do anything else... Also i'm not too sure of the reliability of my hardware. First time i did the torture test it came up with an error, my computer had been running for a few days straight so i rebooted and after that it went through the test smoothly...still i'm not too confident. If i just stick to trialfactoring it's easy to check if sthing goes wrong, to see if something went wrong during an LL test, i can only think of redoing the LLtest completely to figure that one out. michael Last fiddled with by michael on 20031220 at 08:46 
20031220, 10:22  #7 
"Mark"
Feb 2003
Sydney
23D_{16} Posts 
If you're at all doubtful about your hardware, you could do some doublechecks. That will give a very good confirmation of how reliably your computer completes LL tests. Your choices for the current assignment would then be: complete it before doing doublechecks, do doublechecks and later on pick it up where you left off, or abandon it (which seems a waste to me, unless there were errors).
Alternatively, you could get some reassurance by running prime95's torture test for a day, or use memtest86 to check your memory. Pentium 4s are great for LL tests  firsttime or doublechecks! (Of course they're also very good at trial factoring above 64 bits, which is where most of the time will be spent anyway.) Most current trialfactoring assignments will be done to 67 bits. I would guess a 2.4GHz P4 would complete one in 1.5 days. Of course not actually having one myself someone else will probably give a more accurate estimate. Sorry if there are too many choices here! See what suits you best, as you say. 
20031220, 15:11  #8  
Sep 2003
Borg HQ, Delta Quadrant
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20031221, 06:01  #9 
13×17×31 Posts 
The interesting part is if you trial factor to 70 bits instead of 67. The time involved is about quadrupled.
One of these days I need to take a close look at George's algorithm to eliminate potential factors. He eliminates roughly 19 out of 20 possible factors by 2 simple tests. That still leaves *illions of potential factors (* depends on how big the exponent is) Fusion 
20031221, 11:39  #10 
Dec 2003
Belgium
5×13 Posts 
If a prime q is a divisor of Mp it must be q=2kp + 1 and q=+/1mod8
I don't know of any more eliminations for factors, and i'm pretty sure this is built into the program here. michael 
20031225, 03:54  #11 
Oct 2002
Lost in the hills of Iowa
2^{6}×7 Posts 
Above 64bits, each extra "bit" of trial factoring takes twice as long to complete as the bit before it. Up to 64 varies somewhat, due to usage and availability of registers on various CPU types, and other lesser factors....

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