20221017, 17:45  #34  
"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009
Adirondack Mtns
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20221021, 07:37  #35  
Apr 2010
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I think, that the "from original" is way off. Quote:
A way to determine the stage2 norm without patching msieve may be to start rootsieve with a really low stage2 norm and a really low target evalue (like 1e20) and increase the stage2 norm until rootsieve finds polys. Then you can continue as above. But I guess this procedure will be rather slow. Last fiddled with by Gimarel on 20221021 at 07:51 Reason: typo 

20221021, 07:49  #36 
Apr 2010
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One step of the spinning script is to invert the signs of the algebraic side. I run the rootsieve for both, the original poly and the poly with inverted signs on the algebraic side. Sometimes this produces better results.
And another part of the spinning is to run the rootsieve again on the best results of the rootsieve. I also do this additionally with inverted signs on the algebraic side. 
20221021, 11:38  #37 
"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009
Adirondack Mtns
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Thanks Gimarel! This will help me try some better things. I have been looking at adding the inverted polys. I've also considered adding the whole spin to the script, maybe combining everything, since much of it is already there.

20221028, 15:38  #38 
"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009
Adirondack Mtns
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More questions:
 As I understand, the values entered for the norms are max values, to keep. In the polynomials found, there is a norm value (.dat.p listing). Are these the same norm?  It would seem a polynomial with the largest norm is chosen by Msieve root opt as best. Do I have something backwards?  Should I be looking for larger or smaller norms, and are these associated with the exp_E in CADONFS? I've been through the Msieve docs a number of times, but if I should be reading (an)other document(s) for this info, please let me know. 
20221118, 06:06  #39  
Apr 2010
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20221118, 14:55  #40 
"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009
Adirondack Mtns
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Thanks! More study needed, of course. My interest has waned considerably, since, in all my runs, I haven't been finding anything even close to what others have been posting.

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