mersenneforum.org  

Go Back   mersenneforum.org > Extra Stuff > Soap Box

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2018-11-26, 17:06   #122
kladner
 
kladner's Avatar
 
"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!

100111101001102 Posts
Default

The only good I see in this despicable incident is that the bigot wasn't armed. I just saw this dated post because I came to the thread to post a story about another self-entitled jerk.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8652581.html
Quote:
Police in India have admitted it may not be possible to retrieve the body of Christian missionary John Allen Chau, a US citizen who travelled to a remote island and was killed by its tribespeople.
The 27-year-old is believed to have died on 17 November after repeatedly trying to make contact with hunter-gatherers living in isolation on the island of North Sentinel, in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands chain.
The people of the island are under strict protection. Exposing them to outside pathogens could be catastrophic. Missionary Chau believed that he had a "higher calling" to convert the inhabitants to Xtianity. I guess a tribe potentially wiped out would be OK, so long as your "god" is on your side.

Last fiddled with by kladner on 2018-11-26 at 17:17
kladner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2018-11-26, 19:27   #123
Dr Sardonicus
 
Dr Sardonicus's Avatar
 
Feb 2017
Nowhere

10000010010112 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kladner View Post
<snip>The people of the island are under strict protection. Exposing them to outside pathogens could be catastrophic. Missionary Chau believed that he had a "higher calling" to convert the inhabitants to Xtianity. I guess a tribe potentially wiped out would be OK, so long as your "god" is on your side.
Especially if they're hard to convert
Dr Sardonicus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2018-11-27, 10:17   #124
kladner
 
kladner's Avatar
 
"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!

2×52×7×29 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus View Post
Ay yi yi! That is horrific.
kladner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2018-11-27, 22:31   #125
Dr Sardonicus
 
Dr Sardonicus's Avatar
 
Feb 2017
Nowhere

43·97 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kladner View Post
Ay yi yi! That is horrific.
Of course, that movie was only a fanciful rendition of history, courtesy of Werner Herzog. Something I'd heard from actual history was niggling at my mind.

I had a vague recollection of hearing a story about a man about to be burned at the stake by the the Spanish saying he didn't want to go to heaven because there were only Christians there. Thank Heaven for the Information Age! A little creative Googling turned up what is almost certainly the incident I remember hearing about. Either the telling I heard had the details wrong, or I misremembered -- I didn't have what he said right, and I also thought it was during one of Columbus's voyages, but it took place in 1512, after Columbus had died. What the man actually said is even more telling that what I'd dimly remembered hearing.

From the The Wikipedia page on Hatuey:
Quote:
Before he was burned, a priest asked Hatuey if he would accept Jesus and go to heaven. Las Casas recalled the reaction of the chief:

[Hatuey], thinking a little, asked the religious man if Spaniards went to heaven. The religious man answered yes... The chief then said without further thought that he did not want to go there but to hell so as not to be where they were and where he would not see such cruel people. This is the name and honor that God and our faith have earned.
Dr Sardonicus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2019-01-07, 21:59   #126
Dr Sardonicus
 
Dr Sardonicus's Avatar
 
Feb 2017
Nowhere

43·97 Posts
Default So what if we foment disorder?

On March 31, 2017, the anti-immigration group VDARE booked a conference for April 2018 in a resort in Colorado Springs. In August 2017, around the time "many fine people" had their little rally in Charlottesville, the booking became public knowledge. One of VDARE's speechwriters had helped organize that Tiki-torch party. Reaction was swift, and unfavorable. The host venue cancelled the booking. Now, a bogus lawsuit, claiming the city and its mayor "violated our rights, waah waah, waah."

Anti-immigration group VDARE sues Mayor John Suthers

My take: It's a publicity stunt. The resort would have had to cancel the booking, irrespective of the city's or mayor's stance. Because the booking was already public knowledge, the venue was already facing the prospect of protests and boycotts in the eight months before the scheduled conference.
Dr Sardonicus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2019-01-08, 00:20   #127
kladner
 
kladner's Avatar
 
"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!

100111101001102 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus View Post
.....

From the The Wikipedia page on Hatuey:
Quote:
Before he was burned, a priest asked Hatuey if he would accept Jesus and go to heaven. Las Casas recalled the reaction of the chief:

[Hatuey], thinking a little, asked the religious man if Spaniards went to heaven. The religious man answered yes... The chief then said without further thought that he did not want to go there but to hell so as not to be where they were and where he would not see such cruel people. This is the name and honor that God and our faith have earned.
From the first chapter of Huckleberry Finn:
Quote:
Then she told me all about the bad place,
and I said I wished I was there. She got mad then,
but I didn't mean no harm. All I wanted was to go
somewheres; all I wanted was a change, I warn't
particular. She said it was wicked to say what I said;
said she wouldn't say it for the whole world; she was
going to live so as to go to the good place. Well, I
couldn't see no advantage in going where she was
going, so I made up my mind I wouldn't try for it.

But I never said so, because it would only make
trouble, and wouldn't do no good.
kladner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2019-01-08, 00:38   #128
Dr Sardonicus
 
Dr Sardonicus's Avatar
 
Feb 2017
Nowhere

417110 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kladner View Post
From the first chapter of Huckleberry Finn:
I had forgotten that quotation about going to heaven.

There is an incident much later in the book, where Huck is hiding bread and butter under his hat, and the butter melts and comes down his forehead. Aunt Sally thinks he has brain-fever.

Curiously, there is a modern urban legend where a burst tube of ready-made biscuit dough is mistaken for brains.
Dr Sardonicus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2019-01-09, 05:47   #129
LaurV
Romulan Interpreter
 
LaurV's Avatar
 
Jun 2011
Thailand

22·2,287 Posts
Default

I have a similar story about a guy driving behind of me in a splendid sunny day in a summer in the '80-ies in northern Romania. We don't get many summer days there, but few there are, are extremely hot. There was no cloud in the sky and no wind, and the temperatures were close to +38 or so (for Americans, this is +100, over ). Now this guy was running his wipers like crazy, you imagine it's the rainiest day, not only cats and dogs like English speaking people would say, but also elephants and giraffes... (we don't have that, we say, it rains by the bucket, or barrel).

For long minutes I wondered what is wrong with the guy, I was even making suppositions like he is kidnapped and asking for help (what stupid kidnappers, they could not see the wipers running), and all kind of stuff.

Later when I stopped at the next area for a coffee, some juice, a cigarette, or to take a leak, I don't remember, I found out the mystery... the guy reached the same area in few minutes and he was quite talkative, with a good sense of humor, and (as a good Romanian) didn't mind talking with strangers, so he told me in a comic/funny/sad way (he was upset, but trying to make fun of the situation, "haz de necaz", we say, which is like "making the best of a bad bargain" - here this is textual, hehe) the whole story: he was smuggling halva from Poland and he had like 50 kilo of it packed on the top of the car, in a special box that you put on top of the car to carry stuff, I don't know its name. He said the custom officers never look there, they only look in the trunk . So, the sun melted the whole stuff, and the oil from it started running down the windshield... Combined with the dust of the way, he had some opaque "liquid-sandpaper" on the glass, he could not see anything, he could not wash it out.

No place to run, no place to hide...

Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2019-01-09 at 06:07 Reason: link, spaces
LaurV is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2019-01-13, 14:22   #130
Dr Sardonicus
 
Dr Sardonicus's Avatar
 
Feb 2017
Nowhere

10000010010112 Posts
Default

I know Ernst will love this WAPO article: My group filed an IRS complaint about organizations that espouse Meir Kahane’s beliefs.
Dr Sardonicus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2019-01-13, 17:40   #131
kladner
 
kladner's Avatar
 
"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!

2×52×7×29 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus View Post
Would you summarize? WaPo won't let me in.
kladner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2019-02-21, 16:03   #132
Dr Sardonicus
 
Dr Sardonicus's Avatar
 
Feb 2017
Nowhere

43×97 Posts
Default

Will Il Duce pardon this guy? Too soon to tell!
;-)
Dr Sardonicus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nice progress! schickel FactorDB 29 2012-07-18 17:03
Nice pic Dubslow Forum Feedback 0 2012-05-02 02:13
Let's do another nice big GNFS job! fivemack Factoring 84 2011-04-26 10:22
Nice Result! M971 R.D. Silverman Factoring 53 2004-10-02 08:54
Nice link... Xyzzy Lounge 4 2003-06-28 13:37

All times are UTC. The time now is 05:39.

Thu Jan 21 05:39:03 UTC 2021 up 49 days, 1:50, 0 users, load averages: 2.06, 1.77, 1.88

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum has received and complied with 0 (zero) government requests for information.

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
A copy of the license is included in the FAQ.