20091213, 02:39  #1 
Oct 2007
on a Galaxy far, far away
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VLRPNs
There is no Forum for these :[
I *may have* discovered a new method of finding VLRPNs, or Very Large Regular Prime Numbers  visually, graphically. Without even making one calculation. Contemporary searches today require Quadrillions to Googols of Iterations...the only limitation with mine is the number of pixels you can process. I have been searching PRIOR ART, but there doesn't seem to be any. *OR* I am not aware of any Research in this area. If anyone knows of a VISUAL METHOD for ANY TYPE of Prime Number Discovery, I think YOU GUYS would be THE ONES. 
20091213, 03:41  #2  
"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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If so, how do you propose getting around the limitations of human vision? Can you describe a simple example of what you have in mind? 

20091213, 04:44  #3 
Aug 2006
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20091213, 09:49  #4 
Undefined
"The unspeakable one"
Jun 2006
My evil lair
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I also have a secret (until now of course) graphical method of finding primes. And I shall reveal it below (aren't you lucky?).
Arrange N (our number to be tested) pixels in a straight line on the screen. Then try to make two lines by rearranging the pixels with ~half on one line and the rest below it. If the length of the two lines of pixels are equal then N is not prime and stop. Else continue and try to make three equal length lines. If you can get all the pixels in three equal line lengths then N is not prime and stop. Repeat for four, five, ... up to the square root of N lines. This can also test numbers up to really really huge proportions without a single calculation/computation. It is at least possible to test number up to the really really huge value of 1000, maybe even higher if you are patient enough. Pretty neat eh. Woot, now I will be famous. Yay me. Or did I post this in the wrong topic? 
20091213, 17:43  #5 
Oct 2007
on a Galaxy far, far away
19 Posts 
HAHA, Retina, your post matches your Avatar so nicely ;P
I will not reveal this in its entirety until I have perfected it to my satisfaction, and claimed this as an Original Idea. I have to insist on being given credit by .... Humanity. hehe I had a discovery in tenth grade that partially failed claiming bragging rights. I have been working on this for over three years. It may take a Lifetime to finish... In one of my math boards (which alas, is now inactive), someone posed a challenge where I wanted to find the answer by looking at an image of a matrix. I could have written a Perl script, which could ssolve it in 420.ms, but I wanted Visual Proof. >>> We LeftHanders are Visual Beasts <<< haha It was a 1M x 1M image, So a MegaPx. All the Prime Numbers lined up in a Straight Line due to the nature of the challenge. The practically said "'ere I am, JH". I cannot afford to get into arguments over its validity. If this is just another Troll Board (I think it is NOT), I'll move on. If you have knowledge of PRIOR ART, is all I care about. I could reinstall GIMPS if that helps Last fiddled with by ThunderDawg on 20091213 at 17:44 
20091213, 17:56  #6 
Oct 2007
on a Galaxy far, far away
19 Posts 
I realize how OxyMoronish this sounded. It was very late in my TZ.
There ARE calculations to be performed, but not the usual and customary ones. The real point is, it only uses 1/100th of a percent of CPU cycles versus current methods, so it can VASTLY improve the speed at which other types of PRimes can be discovered. I 'umbly think we could find a Trillion digit Mersenne with it. Relatively soon. Last fiddled with by ThunderDawg on 20091213 at 17:58 
20091213, 18:16  #7  
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"Tim Sorbera"
Aug 2006
San Antonio, TX USA
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1M*1M is 1T (trillion/tera). 1K*1K is 1M (million/mega).
Maybe you don't want to get into arguments over its validity, but for your idea to be remotely useful, for it to matter a bit if anybody before you came up with it, it needs to be valid. Quote:
How can we know if there is any 'prior art' if we don't know the method? I don't think anybody here cares so much about your participation in GIMPS that they'd not help you because you aren't running GIMPS. I have trouble imagining a system where a human looking at a visual representation of something that results in a 'prime' or 'not prime' result can process and comprehend it faster and more accurately than a computer. If you want any assistance at all, you have to publish your results. This is mathematics. You don't really have to worry about somebody stealing it. In general, only cranks (or the inexperienced, which I'll admit may simply be the case) behave like you do have to worry about it being stolen. There are no patents for mathematical truths. If you want to publish it in a place that records who invented it and publicly stores your theory, you could use arXiv.org. See http://primes.utm.edu/notes/crackpot.html#establish for some basic info on the subject. Last fiddled with by MiniGeek on 20091213 at 18:28 

20091213, 23:41  #8 
Oct 2007
on a Galaxy far, far away
13_{16} Posts 
Thank you.

20091214, 00:26  #9  
Aug 2006
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Many posters on this forum have suggested methods that do not work. Further, if the method works but can only generate small primes like 1936593751828819 it's probably not worth spending much time on it. You haven't given us enough information about your method to allow us to answer that. (I don't mind, because I'm unlikely to search the literature without some reason to think the method works. But if someone else was more credulous, they still wouldn't be able to do the search with the information you have given.) For one thing, it's not even clear whether you are claiming a compositeness test (like Rabin's test), a primality test (like ECPP), a sieve (like AtkinBernstein), or something else. 

20091214, 01:35  #10 
Undefined
"The unspeakable one"
Jun 2006
My evil lair
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20091214, 03:24  #11 
Aug 2006
3×1,987 Posts 
You could use a multimonitor layout. Half a billion dollars of these
http://www.amazon.com/NECLCD3090WQX.../dp/B0013DJ31A would do it. 