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Old 2009-08-12, 02:35   #1
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I have found and tested number, it is has 894,424,861 digits.In my tests it shows this number is a prime. Can anyone help me to verify the primality of this number? The prove and disprove of the primality of this number will be important to number theory.

Thank very much...

I can also be contacted in my email address is rcdbulanhagui@yahoo.com .
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Old 2009-08-12, 04:58   #2
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Is there a software that can test mersine prime?
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Old 2009-08-12, 19:50   #3
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894,424,861 digits imply you mean 22,971,215,073-1, but it has a factor: 58547736275141965993, so it can't be prime.

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Old 2009-08-13, 09:24   #4
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I have found and tested number, it is has 894,424,861 digits.In my tests it shows this number is a prime. Can anyone help me to verify the primality of this number? The prove and disprove of the primality of this number will be important to number theory.

Thank very much...

I can also be contacted in my email address is rcdbulanhagui@yahoo.com .
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Is there a software that can test mersine prime?
The returns...

If someone finds your number is actually prime, then the terrorists will have won.

There are no "tests" that can show whether that number is a prime with our current hardware. The fact that you can't even spell "Mersenne" shows you are completely ignorant. You are only trying to draw attention to yourself.
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Old 2009-08-13, 10:03   #5
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The prove and disprove of the primality of this number will be important to number theory.
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894,424,861 digits imply you mean 22,971,215,073-1, but it has a factor: 58547736275141965993, so it can't be prime.
Ricie: So how does this proof of non-primeness (kindly provided by ATH) help number theory? What is so important about it?
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Old 2009-08-13, 11:16   #6
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2971215073 is a factor of Fib(423). Why the compositeness of its corresponding Mersenne matters is a question that only Ricie can answer.
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Old 2009-08-13, 21:43   #7
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2971215073 is a factor of Fib(423). Why the compositeness of its corresponding Mersenne matters is a question that only Ricie can answer.
Now, now, 10metreh. Cranks (like Ricie) cannot give substantial evidence for their claims (hence the name crank). Furthermore, due to Ricie's lack of verbosity I doubt that he even possesses the ability to answer questions coherently.
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Old 2009-08-13, 21:55   #8
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The returns...

If someone finds your number is actually prime, then the terrorists will have won.

There are no "tests" that can show whether that number is a prime with our current hardware. The fact that you can't even spell "Mersenne" shows you are completely ignorant. You are only trying to draw attention to yourself.
hi, 10metreh ...


( logic )
if they have never won and have not 10metreh formula,
10metreh then be like them ...

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Old 2009-08-14, 00:24   #9
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Furthermore, due to Ricie's lack of verbosity I doubt that he even possesses the ability to answer questions coherently.
Folks,

It seems quite evident (to me, at least) that English is not Ricie's first language.

Supposedly deducing a lack of mental ability on the basis of some minor errors in written English by a nonnative speaker/writer says more about the deducer's state of mind than it does about the person making the visible errors.

This bad habit is far too common on this forum, and it's been far too long since I last complained about it.

I ask those who would make such comments:

How error-free and colloquially can you write on-line in a nonnative language?

How would you feel if you posted a sincere question in a "second" language, then saw a native user of that language make such comments about you, ridiculing your mental ability because of some grammar or spelling mistakes?

Ricie may or may not have a sound mathematical idea, but confusing (a) the awkwardness in which it is phrased in a nonnative language with (b) the unsoundness of the idea does nothing to help Ricie understand what is or isn't correct mathematically.
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Old 2009-08-14, 00:36   #10
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How error-free and colloquially can you write on-line in a nonnative language?
I can do so very well. I know Japanese and Farsi relatively fluently. If I don't know a language (such as, say, Greek) I wouldn't ask questions in the language nor would I go on a forum that uses it as a primary language.
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How would you feel if you posted a sincere question in a "second" language, then saw a native user of that language make such comments about you, ridiculing your mental ability because of some grammar or spelling mistakes?
I either wouldn't understand what they were saying (because that language would not be fully understood by me) or I wouldn't care. Remember, cranks don't like to admit they are wrong, so Ricie will probably keep on thinking that he is correct regardless of what anyone may say.
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Ricie may or may not have a sound mathematical idea, but confusing (a) the awkwardness in which it is phrased in a nonnative language with (b) the unsoundness of the idea does nothing to help Ricie understand what is or isn't correct mathematically.
I agree. I'm sorry, Ricie (and cheeshead presumably).
HOWEVER, if he could phrase his questions better, then that would be beneficial for both Ricie and other members of this forum.

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Old 2009-08-14, 01:08   #11
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If I don't know a language (such as, say, Greek) I wouldn't ask questions in the language nor would I go on a forum that uses it as a primary language.
... and the alternative mersenneforum.org where the primary language is, say, Greek, for discussing GIMPS or Mersenne-related questions, is where ...?

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Remember, cranks don't like to admit they are wrong, so Ricie will probably keep on thinking that he is correct regardless of what anyone may say.
I guess I missed the posts where Ricie proved crankhood by refusing to admit that s/he was wrong.

Where are they, again -- the posts where, after being informed of being wrong, Ricie demonstrates unwillingness to admit wrongness? Please provide links.
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