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 2009-08-12, 02:35 #1 Ricie   Aug 2009 2 Posts Mersene Prime and Number Theory I have found and tested number, it is has 894,424,861 digits.In my tests it shows this number is a prime. Can anyone help me to verify the primality of this number? The prove and disprove of the primality of this number will be important to number theory. Thank very much... I can also be contacted in my email address is rcdbulanhagui@yahoo.com .
 2009-08-12, 04:58 #2 Ricie   Aug 2009 216 Posts Prime Is there a software that can test mersine prime?
 2009-08-12, 19:50 #3 ATH Einyen     Dec 2003 Denmark 23·7·53 Posts 894,424,861 digits imply you mean 22,971,215,073-1, but it has a factor: 58547736275141965993, so it can't be prime. Last fiddled with by ATH on 2009-08-12 at 19:58
2009-08-13, 09:24   #4
10metreh

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Ricie I have found and tested number, it is has 894,424,861 digits.In my tests it shows this number is a prime. Can anyone help me to verify the primality of this number? The prove and disprove of the primality of this number will be important to number theory. Thank very much... I can also be contacted in my email address is rcdbulanhagui@yahoo.com .
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 Originally Posted by Ricie Is there a software that can test mersine prime?
The returns...

If someone finds your number is actually prime, then the terrorists will have won.

There are no "tests" that can show whether that number is a prime with our current hardware. The fact that you can't even spell "Mersenne" shows you are completely ignorant. You are only trying to draw attention to yourself.

2009-08-13, 10:03   #5
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Ricie The prove and disprove of the primality of this number will be important to number theory.
Quote:
 Originally Posted by ATH 894,424,861 digits imply you mean 22,971,215,073-1, but it has a factor: 58547736275141965993, so it can't be prime.
Ricie: So how does this proof of non-primeness (kindly provided by ATH) help number theory? What is so important about it?

 2009-08-13, 11:16 #6 10metreh     Nov 2008 2·33·43 Posts 2971215073 is a factor of Fib(423). Why the compositeness of its corresponding Mersenne matters is a question that only Ricie can answer.
2009-08-13, 21:43   #7
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 Originally Posted by 10metreh 2971215073 is a factor of Fib(423). Why the compositeness of its corresponding Mersenne matters is a question that only Ricie can answer.
Now, now, 10metreh. Cranks (like Ricie) cannot give substantial evidence for their claims (hence the name crank). Furthermore, due to Ricie's lack of verbosity I doubt that he even possesses the ability to answer questions coherently.

2009-08-13, 21:55   #8
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by 10metreh The returns... If someone finds your number is actually prime, then the terrorists will have won. There are no "tests" that can show whether that number is a prime with our current hardware. The fact that you can't even spell "Mersenne" shows you are completely ignorant. You are only trying to draw attention to yourself.
hi, 10metreh ...

( logic )
if they have never won and have not 10metreh formula,
10metreh then be like them ...

Last fiddled with by cmd on 2009-08-13 at 21:56

2009-08-14, 00:24   #9

"Richard B. Woods"
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 Furthermore, due to Ricie's lack of verbosity I doubt that he even possesses the ability to answer questions coherently.
Folks,

It seems quite evident (to me, at least) that English is not Ricie's first language.

Supposedly deducing a lack of mental ability on the basis of some minor errors in written English by a nonnative speaker/writer says more about the deducer's state of mind than it does about the person making the visible errors.

This bad habit is far too common on this forum, and it's been far too long since I last complained about it.

How error-free and colloquially can you write on-line in a nonnative language?

How would you feel if you posted a sincere question in a "second" language, then saw a native user of that language make such comments about you, ridiculing your mental ability because of some grammar or spelling mistakes?

Ricie may or may not have a sound mathematical idea, but confusing (a) the awkwardness in which it is phrased in a nonnative language with (b) the unsoundness of the idea does nothing to help Ricie understand what is or isn't correct mathematically.

2009-08-14, 00:36   #10
flouran

Dec 2008

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 Originally Posted by cheesehead How error-free and colloquially can you write on-line in a nonnative language?
I can do so very well. I know Japanese and Farsi relatively fluently. If I don't know a language (such as, say, Greek) I wouldn't ask questions in the language nor would I go on a forum that uses it as a primary language.
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 Originally Posted by cheesehead How would you feel if you posted a sincere question in a "second" language, then saw a native user of that language make such comments about you, ridiculing your mental ability because of some grammar or spelling mistakes?
I either wouldn't understand what they were saying (because that language would not be fully understood by me) or I wouldn't care. Remember, cranks don't like to admit they are wrong, so Ricie will probably keep on thinking that he is correct regardless of what anyone may say.
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 Originally Posted by cheesehead Ricie may or may not have a sound mathematical idea, but confusing (a) the awkwardness in which it is phrased in a nonnative language with (b) the unsoundness of the idea does nothing to help Ricie understand what is or isn't correct mathematically.
I agree. I'm sorry, Ricie (and cheeshead presumably).
HOWEVER, if he could phrase his questions better, then that would be beneficial for both Ricie and other members of this forum.

Last fiddled with by flouran on 2009-08-14 at 00:37

2009-08-14, 01:08   #11

"Richard B. Woods"
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 Originally Posted by flouran If I don't know a language (such as, say, Greek) I wouldn't ask questions in the language nor would I go on a forum that uses it as a primary language.
... and the alternative mersenneforum.org where the primary language is, say, Greek, for discussing GIMPS or Mersenne-related questions, is where ...?

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 Remember, cranks don't like to admit they are wrong, so Ricie will probably keep on thinking that he is correct regardless of what anyone may say.
I guess I missed the posts where Ricie proved crankhood by refusing to admit that s/he was wrong.

Where are they, again -- the posts where, after being informed of being wrong, Ricie demonstrates unwillingness to admit wrongness? Please provide links.

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