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Old 2009-10-09, 11:35   #1
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Default Obama's Performance (was "wins Nobel Peace prize")

I had to check the date on this one. I'm sure it will generate lots of comment so might as well open the thread. All our problems are solved now so let us go home.

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Old 2009-10-09, 12:15   #2
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From this article I see this comment:

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"So soon? Too early. He has no contribution so far. He is still at an early stage. He is only beginning to act," said former Polish President Lech Walesa, a 1983 Nobel Peace laureate.
"This is probably an encouragement for him to act. Let's see if he perseveres. Let's give him time to act," Walesa said.
and then we see this:

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Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, who won the prize in 1984, said Obama's award shows great things are expected from him in coming years.
I also see this:

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The award appeared to be a slap at President George W. Bush from a committee that harshly criticized Obama's predecessor for his largely unilateral military action in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
and this:

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Obama ordered 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan earlier this year and has continued the use of unmanned drones for attacks on militants in Afghanistan and Pakistan, a strategy devised by the Bush administration. The attacks often kill or injure civilians living in the area.
I voted for Obama because I did not trust the Bush administration and the Bush wannabes, but this is over the top. We have two former winners state that the award is being used to prompt Obama into action. We then have the author state how this is a "slap in the face" to Bush, yet Obama has continued many of Bush's policies.

I'm curious who on this forum thinks that he deserves the prize, considering that he has done so little. He hasn't been president for even a year yet and has not resolved the nuclear proliferation issues, namely North Korea and Iran. Doesn't anyone see that the possibility of going to war with Iran is fairly high during his presidency?

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Old 2009-10-09, 13:06   #3
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I had to check the date on this one.
That it wasn't April 1st.

rogue, it would be quite an irony if Obama goes to war with Iran after having won the Nobel peace prize. The prospect of that happening is still non-zero.
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Old 2009-10-09, 13:35   #4
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He is so far a do little president with a habit of talking when he should be listening.

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Old 2009-10-09, 15:56   #5
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I'm curious who on this forum thinks that he deserves the prize, considering that he has done so little. He hasn't been president for even a year yet and has not resolved the nuclear proliferation issues, namely North Korea and Iran. Doesn't anyone see that the possibility of going to war with Iran is fairly high during his presidency?
I am a strong Obama supporter. I do not believe that he deserves the prize at all.

As previously stated, he has no track record.
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Old 2009-10-09, 16:06   #6
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http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2009/...ins-nobel.html

http://blogs.ft.com/rachmanblog/2009...l-peace-prize/
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Old 2009-10-10, 01:21   #7
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While the transgression to Lincoln was obnoxiuos, along party lines,
the connection to the Nobel prize via Jane Addams (my cousin down the road),
is not. Jane received the prize for her work in Hull House Chicago.The President from the beginning of his Chicago career was focusing along similar lines, with a difference: he took it to a higher level,the presidency.
Beyond that I will not comment, for there are objectionable proceedings.
Jane's father was a co-founder ,with Lincoln of the Republican party.She claimed a connection to John Quincy, which in my opinion could date back to 1809 and the naval blockade, when Quincy Adams took off .(Long before the current political setup)
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Old 2009-10-12, 04:12   #8
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LOL@Mankiw ... I disagree with him on many things economic, but at least he has a keen wit.

The wonderful German expression 'Vorschusslorbeeren" seems apt. This announcement could well have gone into the "news that makes you go WTF?" thread. Seems the Norwegians have been smoking the same Hopium as the economists who think that except for those pesky millions of jobless folks and a couple tens of trillions of $ in debt overhang, the recession is over.
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Old 2009-10-12, 04:41   #9
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Default Vorschusslorbeeren, ja-ja

Not only apt, but that's exactly what comes back as one of the top hits
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Old 2009-10-12, 04:49   #10
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I seem to share the opinion of Bill O'Reilly. While I understand why some might think that Obama doesn't deserve the award, I for one congratulate him. Furthermore, I think the award recognizes that Obama's rhetoric regarding peace represents the hope of most Americans; we are a country that desires and works for peace in the world.
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Old 2009-10-12, 08:10   #11
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Furthermore, I think the award recognizes that Obama's rhetoric regarding peace represents the hope of most Americans; we are a country that desires and works for peace in the world.
"We come in peace, shoot to kill".


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