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Old 2022-07-08, 12:03   #1
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Unhappy Re: Japanese PM assassination / see also: Is it Right to Bear Guns? thread

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Japan's former prime minister Shinzo Abe has died in hospital after he was shot at a political campaign event.
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Old 2022-07-08, 13:10   #2
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ech/ar-AAZlkNa
"Nara prefectural police arrested the alleged gunman ... and recovered a weapon -- described as a handmade shotgun -- at the scene of the attack on Friday, according to Japanese public broadcaster NHK, a partner of ABC News"
Japan has extremely strict gun control laws, originating from what was imposed on postwar Japan by US occupation.
Looks like their event security was rather lacking. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62074223

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Old 2022-07-08, 15:35   #3
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People think this kind of thing only happens here, (U.S.).

A "handmade shotgun." I wonder if the guy still has a hand left?
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Old 2022-07-08, 17:10   #4
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A "handmade shotgun." I wonder if the guy still has a hand left?
Maximum average pressures for standard shot shells of various gauges are under but close to bursting pressure of schedule 80 black iron pipe of modest diameter. Someone with access to a lathe and a furnace could bore a solid bar and heat treat it, providing more safety factor against barrel rupture which can be dangerous for the operator. Or precision turn & bore for thermal interference sleeving, two different pipe sizes.
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Old 2022-07-08, 17:32   #5
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People think this kind of thing only happens here, (U.S.).
The question is "How many conservative politicians need to be killed by gun violence before other conservative politicians decide to do something about it?".

Like the shootings in schools, gang violence, and other incidents with mass shooters, if a politician is not impacted, that politician won't give a damn. They are happy to have the wild, wild west, as long as they themselves are not living in it.
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Old 2022-07-08, 18:55   #6
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Attacker of the Republican baseball team? "Democrat". Scalise lived because some Capitol police were already on scene and ambulance response was swift. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...a-park-n772111

Attacker who broke six of Rand Paul's ribs while he was mowing his own lawn? "Democrat" next door blindsided him. No guns involved.

The "wild" west reportedly had a lower violent crime rate than "modern" Democrat governed large cities.
http://davidgalbraith.org/myth-busti...s-safest/1722/
When lots of people open carry, lots of people are polite.

But we seem to be digressing from the RIP thread topic.

Abe had taken a hard stand against the CCP's intentions for Taiwan. December: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...an-2021-12-01/
February: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/02...rmoil-1206433/
April: "Abe’s repeated warnings about China’s intentions and the need for strategic clarity to deter China are reminiscent of Churchill’s repeated warnings about Nazi Germany and the need for British rearmament in the 1930s. The West refused to listen to Churchill then. Will it heed Abe’s warnings now?" https://spectator.org/japan-china-ta...abe-churchill/
Upping the ante (June) https://www.manilatimes.net/2022/06/...oncern/1847018

Taiwan has lost a close friend https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...th-2022-07-08/

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Old 2022-07-08, 19:05   #7
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The "wild" west reportedly had a lower violent crime rate than "modern" Democrat governed large cities.
http://davidgalbraith.org/myth-busti...s-safest/1722/
When lots of people open carry, lots of people are polite.
It's also comparing apples to bowling balls. Population density in the "wild" west was extremely low.
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Old 2022-07-08, 19:07   #8
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Spinning off the bickering into a separate thread.
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It's also comparing apples to bowling balls. Population density in the "wild" west was extremely low.
The rate I referred to was per capita, which normalizes for population differences.

https://libertarianstandard.com/2010...-west-in-fact/

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Old 2022-07-08, 19:32   #10
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People think this kind of thing only happens here, (U.S.).
Maybe some people, sure. But this event made news because it is rare and because the victim was high profile. Many (most?) of the gun-related murders in the US don't make it to the news because they are common and because the victims are "no one important". Of course if it is your family member then they are important to you, but not enough to make the news folks care.

You should start to worry more when these things don't make it to the news. Then you know the problem is widespread and more likely to affect you. Oh, hey, look many of the US incidents don't make it to the news. I wonder what that tells us?

And the perpetrator had to make his own gun. That took some dedication and planning. Not something your ordinary 18-year old nutcase is capable of, or has the patience to see to completion. So the perpetrator was going to find a way, you can never stop that type of person.
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The rate I referred to was per capita, which normalizes for population differences.

https://libertarianstandard.com/2010...-west-in-fact/
No it does not. Uranium scattered around doesn't go critical, uranium packed together and highly compressed results in a chain reaction. It's not the number of uranium atoms that's important, but the density.
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