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2020 promises to be a bang-up year in space.
So, ladies and germs let's guess what will transpire this year. Please render your opinion on each of the following (guesses due by Jan 7.)
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Since the thread as posted has garnered no replies, allow me to open things up a bit by extending the time window for bang-up things happening in space to a few years later, specifically to 2083:
Binary star V Sagittae to explode as very bright nova by century's end | Phys.org Quote:
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One thing that doesn't say is if the white dwarf is likely to accrete enough matter to take it over the Chandrasekhar limit so it collapses and becomes a type 1a supernova. That would be even brighter.
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Sep 2002
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"𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭"
May 2003
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I´m skeptical myself, as is a professional astronomer with whom I exchanged emails on the subject about an hour ago. He has roughly 40 years experience observing and analyzing observations of objects like V Sge. We both find the few-decades timescale rather implausible which has been chosen to make a good news story.
That said, he finds it interesting and, at my instigation, is likely to contribute to a pro-am collaboration with the BAA-VSS. M31N 2008-12a is another fascinating recurrent nova which is likely to go supernova in the near future. Despite being in the Andromeda galaxy it is quite likely to become visible to the naked eye. |
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Feb 2017
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According to the details listed here, the white dwarf has mass between 0.8 and 0.9 times the mass of the sun, and its companion has mass between 3.1 and 3.5 times the mass of the sun.
The Chandrasekhar limit is about 1.4 times the mass of the sun. Pile more mass than that on the white dwarf, and gravity overcomes "electron degeneracy pressure." The white dwarf collapses further, the carbon and oxygen become able to fuse into iron, and -- BOOM! It's hard for me to see the mass not reaching the Chandrasekhar limit, if not during accretion, then after the white dwarf is inside the companion, as is predicted to happen. It is also not clear to me why, if the process for V Sagittae is expected to involve accreted material getting blown off the white dwarf fast enough to keep it below the limit, why this doesn't happen with white dwarf stars that do go Type 1a supernova. Is it the rapid inspiralling? I don't know. I have so far not succeeded in finding an explanation. Also -- doesn't the companion have its own stellar core? If it does, and the white dwarf meets it, I would expect the result to be -- BOOM! |
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Bamboozled!
"𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭"
May 2003
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It is the ~65 year timescale which is open to serious questioning. |
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Sep 2002
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1. Once the accretion rate passes a threshold of magnitude similar to that of a normal nova event, just such will happen, and the resulting blowing-off will temporarily reverse the accretion process. A quasi-regular sequence of pulsations could be the result, each of which leaves the white dwarf that much more massive, eventually culminating in a Type 1a SN. 2. The unusual nature of the system leads to an unusually energetic nova event which leaves the white dwarf still below the Chandrasekhar limit but completely disrupts the main sequence star, leaving it as a giant outward-billowing nebula. The "unusual nature" aspect is a 2-edged sword here: It makes the system very interesting, but at the same time it makes the kind of simplistic "extrapolation from normal nova behavior" modeling described in the PDF very fraught. I was expecting such a firm-sounding timing prediction to be underpinned by highly detailed supercomputer simulations of the immensely complex hydrodynamics of such a system, and was disappointed to find no such thing - from the PDF: Quote:
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Bamboozled!
"𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭"
May 2003
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Despite being so faint at minimum light, meaning we can´t see the mass-losing companion nor determine the orbital period of the system, the intensity of each outburst and its frequency sets a lower limit on the accretion rate. The radial velocities measured from the spectrum during outburst and the size of the ejected material, which is easily big enough to be measured from here, set tolerably good limits on the mass of the ejecta at each eruption. Well understood nuclear physics and Newtonian gravitation then allows one to calculate the annual mass gain on the white dwarf. Searching on the name of the recurrent nova will turn up several authoritative yet easily read papers. Even better, most of them have nice pictures to look at if you have difficulty following the text in its finest detail. Last fiddled with by xilman on 2020-01-11 at 09:02 |
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"Tom Johnson"
Dec 2020
United Kingdom
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2021 looks like it could still be more exciting in terms of new launches. Of course, 2020 had its own quirks (let's call it quirks) that allowed a lot of people to watch some interesting launches. China has more than 40 launches scheduled for 2021. Ariane 6, New Glenn, Vulcan-Centaur were also supposed to be launched in 2021. But the launch of the James Webb Space Telescope is probably especially interesting. This seems to be one of the most anticipated events in this area.
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"Vincent"
Apr 2010
Over the rainbow
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I 'm looking forward Perseverance landing in february
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