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 2009-09-21, 19:53 #1 gd_barnes     May 2007 Kansas; USA 2·47·109 Posts Misc. sequences I thought I'd start a thread for misc. sequences since some of us like to "blaze our own trail" for our own entertainment at times. I've done all of the following aliquot sequences to >= 80 digits: All primorals to 31#. All powers of 10 to 10^60. All digits of PI up to 61 digits. There was a fair amount of work already in the DB done by others on the first two above, especially on the powers of 10. I started many new ones but extended many others. As far as I can tell, I was the first to do the digits of PI past 7 digits. The last one was is kind of crazy but I like doing off-the-wall stuff to keep from getting bored. lol To clarify it, I did sequences 3, 31, 314, 3141, 31415, 314159, 3141592, etc. up to 61 digits of PI. All were taken to indexes exceeding 80 digits. There were some interesting finds on these. The most interesting are two consective very large even sequences of PI that terminated in a prime. They are: 3141592653589793238462643383279502 (34 digits) terminated at i=618 with a prime of 41. 31415926535897932384626433832795028 (35 digits) terminated at i=529 with a prime of 20422951. The 2nd of the two above technically merged with sequence 14952 towards the end, which has to be the most remarkable sequence I've ever seen. It increases for 13 consecutive indexes before terminating in an 8-digit prime! I did not think that was possible! The sequences never cease to entertain me in some new way. For historical reference, I'd encourage others to post their unusual sequence searches in this thread, mainly the very large ones. Perhaps some strange and new pattern of factors or merges will come out of it. Eventually I'd like to see all powers of 10 filled in to 10^100 up to 100 or 120 digits. The even powers are easy because they quickly become odd and so terminate quickly. It is the odd powers that are more useful. Here's something for the "odds and ends" thread: What is the LARGEST even sequence that terminates that never becomes odd until towards the very end? Admins: If you think I'm going too far off the project criteria here, feel free to give me a slap on the hand. :-) I just want to make sure that this historical info. is made public in case others may be interested in it in the future. Gary Last fiddled with by gd_barnes on 2009-09-21 at 20:07
 2009-09-21, 20:09 #2 Mini-Geek Account Deleted     "Tim Sorbera" Aug 2006 San Antonio, TX USA 10000101010112 Posts I was going to make a thread just like this a while ago, but never got around to it. I took 10^15 (which is the lowest power of 10 to not have terminated yet or merged with a seq low enough to be worked by normal efforts, like 10^9; 10^15 merges to 823966192835552) to a size of 113 a while ago. It's just got the 2^3 guide right now, but it's big enough to be rather slow at doing anything.
 2009-09-21, 20:52 #3 gd_barnes     May 2007 Kansas; USA 2·47·109 Posts Since the DB does not show sequences >= 100M in its 'sequence overview' list, here are some highest and lowest records related to the above: Primorals: Smallest non-terminating sequence: 11# [2310] (merges with 1578) Largest terminating sequence: 7# [210] Highest height before terminating: 4 by 7# Longest sequences: i=7258 by 11# (merges with 1578) i=2122 by 13# (merges with 425052) i=914 by 23# (longest with no merge < 1M) Powers of 10 to 10^60: Smallest non-terminating sequence: 10^9 Largest odd-power terminating sequence: 10^23 Odd-power highest height before terminating: 70 by 10^13 (!) Longest sequence: i=2129 by 10^35 PI to 61 digits: Smallest non-terminating sequence: 3141592 Largest even terminating sequence: 31415926535897932384626433832795028 (35 digits) Even sequence highest height before terminating: 52 by 31415926535897932384626433832795028 Longest sequences: i=5794 by 3141592 (merges with 8760) i=2903 by 31415926535897932 (merges with 109480) i=2590 by 31415926535897932384626 (merges with 77392) i=2020 by 3141592653589793238 (longest with no merge < 1M) Last fiddled with by Mini-Geek on 2009-09-24 at 22:00
2009-09-21, 20:58   #4
gd_barnes

May 2007
Kansas; USA

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Mini-Geek I was going to make a thread just like this a while ago, but never got around to it. I took 10^15 (which is the lowest power of 10 to not have terminated yet or merged with a seq low enough to be worked by normal efforts, like 10^9; 10^15 merges to 823966192835552) to a size of 113 a while ago. It's just got the 2^3 guide right now, but it's big enough to be rather slow at doing anything.
Ah, very good. I knew there was a fair amount of work being done on some of the lower powers of 10. I got into it a lot more above 10^20. 10^23 was my most entertaining one. It's the first sequence I've ever had terminate after reaching at least 70 digits.

2009-09-22, 13:35   #5
Greebley

May 2009
Dedham Massachusetts USA

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by gd_barnes Admins: If you think I'm going too far off the project criteria here, feel free to give me a slap on the hand. :-) I just want to make sure that this historical info. is made public in case others may be interested in it in the future. Gary
I find these side excursions interesting (like this and the odd sequences). I think you should post them.

 2009-09-24, 21:44 #6 gd_barnes     May 2007 Kansas; USA 280616 Posts Tim, since you're an admin here now, can you correct something in my 2nd posting here?: For powers of 10 the following statement: Smallest non-terminating sequence: 10^15 Should say: Smallest non-terminating sequence: 10^9 I'm not sure why I thought 10^15 was the smallest non-terminating sequence. Feel free to delete this post after making the correction. Thanks, Gary
2009-09-24, 22:03   #7
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"Tim Sorbera"
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I've fixed it, but on closer examination you may want to list both. I'll explain...
Quote:
 Originally Posted by gd_barnes I'm not sure why I thought 10^15 was the smallest non-terminating sequence.
Probably from this:
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Mini-Geek I took 10^15 (which is the lowest power of 10 to not have terminated yet or merged with a seq low enough to be worked by normal efforts, like 10^9; 10^15 merges to 823966192835552) to a size of 113 a while ago. It's just got the 2^3 guide right now, but it's big enough to be rather slow at doing anything.
10^9 merges to 31240, and so is covered by more conventional methods of searching (though it's still only at size 101). The next smallest power of 10 to not terminate is 10^15, which merges to a rather large number that would not be searched by normal methods. They're each lowests for their own sort of thing. Perhaps each should have a mention? If you agree with me, let me know what you want it to say and I'll edit it. e.g. Smallest non-terminating sequence with no merges under 1M: 10^15
A similar listing for other sequence categories (x#, pi) may be useful.

 2009-09-25, 21:30 #8 gd_barnes     May 2007 Kansas; USA 2·47·109 Posts Actually, it is how I intended it to be now that you've corrected it. But you make a good point and it is why I listed the top 3-4 longest sequences on a couple of them until I came to the first one with no merge < 1M. I'll look into it and perhaps come up with some additional categories for each of the 3 listings. There's no limit to the # of possibilities for such types of things. I seem to recall a little while back that I did most of the powers of 3 up to 3^20 but I don't remember how high I searched them.
 2009-09-29, 17:44 #9 mataje     Jan 2009 Bilbao, Spain 283 Posts I've done the same with e number All digits of "e" up to 100 digits. (2, 27, 271, 2718, 27182, ...). No merges are those with 9, 21, 26, 35, 44, 57, 58, 60, 67, 68, 70, 71, 73, 82 and 91 digits. All digits of decimal part of e up to 100 digits (7, 71, 718, 7182, 71828, ...). No merges are those with 9, 16, 22, 33, 67, 77, 87, 95 and 97 digits. Results are in DB.
 2009-09-30, 00:54 #10 gd_barnes     May 2007 Kansas; USA 2×47×109 Posts Excellent. Someone else blazing his own path. Question: Many of the "e" aliquot sequences are not searched to 100 digits. This includes several "smaller" sequences. How come they are being stopped when they drop below their beginning value? That's the only way that they will terminate. Last fiddled with by gd_barnes on 2009-09-30 at 00:56
 2009-09-30, 04:04 #11 paleseptember     Jun 2008 Wollongong, .au 3·61 Posts I feel inspired to run a sequence purely for silliness. So I will run the Look and Say Sequence up to 80 digits. 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That is, 1, one 1 (11), two ones (21), one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on. I'm reasonably sure nothing interesting will be learnt from this exercise :D

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