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 2020-05-17, 22:06 #1904 EdH     "Ed Hall" Dec 2009 Adirondack Mtns 22×3×269 Posts c191 Slightly better than the last: Code: n: 27503817001021855161359142123867859536697596095777966914212896065652446437415997206851944428748759308483152015176751478208917632740831052389257949045686226159825984985356043711658640131389761 skew: 89512187.123 c0: -107124540075430940927259403685059361567627907099 c1: -3230289459529069867603836368256882437355 c2: 653395097892965585504588093684713 c3: -117012422658425458777781 c4: -11207542193665670 c5: 127709400 Y0: -2928424444892572870170577909829921038 Y1: 924197682549169037291 # MurphyE (Bf=8.590e+09,Bg=4.295e+09,area=5.469e+16) = 8.471e-09 # f(x) = 127709400*x^5-11207542193665670*x^4-117012422658425458777781*x^3+653395097892965585504588093684713*x^2-3230289459529069867603836368256882437355*x-107124540075430940927259403685059361567627907099 # g(x) = 924197682549169037291*x-2928424444892572870170577909829921038 cownoise says: Code: 95735333.03286 1.98507477e-14 Gravy?
2020-05-17, 22:31   #1905
swellman

Jun 2012

7×401 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by EdH Slightly better than the last: Code: n: 27503817001021855161359142123867859536697596095777966914212896065652446437415997206851944428748759308483152015176751478208917632740831052389257949045686226159825984985356043711658640131389761 skew: 89512187.123 c0: -107124540075430940927259403685059361567627907099 c1: -3230289459529069867603836368256882437355 c2: 653395097892965585504588093684713 c3: -117012422658425458777781 c4: -11207542193665670 c5: 127709400 Y0: -2928424444892572870170577909829921038 Y1: 924197682549169037291 # MurphyE (Bf=8.590e+09,Bg=4.295e+09,area=5.469e+16) = 8.471e-09 # f(x) = 127709400*x^5-11207542193665670*x^4-117012422658425458777781*x^3+653395097892965585504588093684713*x^2-3230289459529069867603836368256882437355*x-107124540075430940927259403685059361567627907099 # g(x) = 924197682549169037291*x-2928424444892572870170577909829921038 cownoise says: Code: 95735333.03286 1.98507477e-14 Gravy?
That’s a wrap! Nicely done sir!

2020-06-08, 03:55   #1906
Max0526

"Max"
Jun 2016
Toronto

683 Posts
C191 poly score

Quote:
 Originally Posted by EdH Slightly better than the last: Code: n: 27503817001021855161359142123867859536697596095777966914212896065652446437415997206851944428748759308483152015176751478208917632740831052389257949045686226159825984985356043711658640131389761 skew: 89512187.123 c0: -107124540075430940927259403685059361567627907099 c1: -3230289459529069867603836368256882437355 c2: 653395097892965585504588093684713 c3: -117012422658425458777781 c4: -11207542193665670 c5: 127709400 Y0: -2928424444892572870170577909829921038 Y1: 924197682549169037291 # MurphyE (Bf=8.590e+09,Bg=4.295e+09,area=5.469e+16) = 8.471e-09 # f(x) = 127709400*x^5-11207542193665670*x^4-117012422658425458777781*x^3+653395097892965585504588093684713*x^2-3230289459529069867603836368256882437355*x-107124540075430940927259403685059361567627907099 # g(x) = 924197682549169037291*x-2928424444892572870170577909829921038 cownoise says: Code: 95735333.03286 1.98507477e-14 Gravy?
I am not sure the skew and score are correct. I just reran cownoise and it gave me
Code:
96226592.92267 1.26877549e-14
Msieve gives the same. There is a close poly with half the skew but I am afraid that none of them is a winner yet.
Code:
Y0: -2928424449927809789177024388024679513
Y1: 1848395365098338074582
c0: -8765241560908378999021477471201789014221635278
c1: -2588145948209291086837792430499127111395
c2: 326552522151010995500536259169194
c3: 165140603596390404715219
c4: -29372979845481340
c5: 510837600
skew: 48340071.33078
# size 6.436e-19, alpha -9.124, combined = 1.280e-14 rroots = 3

2020-06-08, 04:01   #1907
Max0526

"Max"
Jun 2016
Toronto

683 Posts
C191 poly

Quote:
 Originally Posted by EdH Here's one above the threshold: Code: n: 27503817001021855161359142123867859536697596095777966914212896065652446437415997206851944428748759308483152015176751478208917632740831052389257949045686226159825984985356043711658640131389761 skew: 52655514.429 c0: 3894101020403634460611585358413752162507886840 c1: -264898911158239952216506666695139995566 c2: -8576295453521901136589935944553 c3: 78457552052343269630821 c4: 1224390234907308 c5: -14387760 Y0: -5205781762729277297467243067909327153 Y1: 1057936587640601961509 # MurphyE (Bf=8.590e+09,Bg=4.295e+09,area=5.469e+16) = 1.102e-08 # f(x) = -14387760*x^5+1224390234907308*x^4+78457552052343269630821*x^3-8576295453521901136589935944553*x^2-264898911158239952216506666695139995566*x+3894101020403634460611585358413752162507886840 # g(x) = 1057936587640601961509*x-5205781762729277297467243067909327153 cownoise says: Code: 64598312.74029 1.92602657e-14 I'm hoping I've got different enough settings using CADO-NFS that I'm not treading on work that you're doing. If I am (or do), don't hesitate to tell me. I'm running admin=14e6 admax=18e6 overnight. I'm not sure if the other params are CADO-NFS default or not - I've been playing with some of them.
This score seems to be correct though. And a tiny bit better one would be
Code:
Y0: -5205781774373959927149245483791813937
Y1: 1057936587640601961509
c0: -5686459119379546383868312456212608964608715000
c1: 55171522593898081478578963518287579054
c2: 10085135848914202706683862380393
c3: -7118938546537264210789
c4: -2016218879976108
c5: 14387760
skew: 62445208.04596
# size 1.175e-18, alpha -7.905, combined = 1.929e-14 rroots = 3

Last fiddled with by Max0526 on 2020-06-08 at 04:18 Reason: added a poly

2020-06-08, 11:48   #1908
EdH

"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009

22·3·269 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Max0526 I am not sure the skew and score are correct. I just reran cownoise and it gave me Code: 96226592.92267 1.26877549e-14
Interesting! I run cownoise via a script and had some copy/paste troubles early on. I slowed the c/p down and did double runs since, only posting when I got two identical pages. I just reran the script here and got the same as you posted. I must have labeled the saved poly erroneously, which means the "good" one is lost. I suppose I should be more meticulous. Sorry 'bout that! I do have search parameters for that poly. I will rerun them later (after the current team sieve) and see if I can figure anything out.

 2020-06-08, 21:10 #1909 EdH     "Ed Hall" Dec 2009 Adirondack Mtns 22×3×269 Posts Well. . . how disappointing! I don't have the parameters for the c191, only for the c204 and c197 composites. What I DO have, is 12854 raw polynomials from a c191 run that MIGHT be the one in question, but probably isn't. I might study them a little more, but probably not. I guess I'll have to mark it up to poor note taking.
2020-06-08, 23:30   #1910
Max0526

"Max"
Jun 2016
Toronto

683 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by EdH Well. . . how disappointing! I don't have the parameters for the c191, only for the c204 and c197 composites. What I DO have, is 12854 raw polynomials from a c191 run that MIGHT be the one in question, but probably isn't. I might study them a little more, but probably not. I guess I'll have to mark it up to poor note taking.
Do you mind if I look at your 12854 polys? If you zip and attach them here, we might have a way to figure out the better ones fast.
Also, we will definitely zero down on the parameters that you used to generate them.

2020-06-09, 02:30   #1911
EdH

"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009

1100100111002 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Max0526 Do you mind if I look at your 12854 polys? If you zip and attach them here, we might have a way to figure out the better ones fast. Also, we will definitely zero down on the parameters that you used to generate them.
Actually, I think these polynomials are a bust. If I'm correct, the parameters and information about them is in this post. And, unfortunately, they're not from a better run according to what I have there. They were used for the graphs.

What I am confused about though, is that I mention that the remainder of the parameters were from the c200 file, but if these are the polynomials for the graphs, they should have been from the c190 file instead.

If you still want them, let me know, but for now I'll wait.

Organization is apparently not a strong suit in my deck. . .

2020-06-09, 03:16   #1912
Max0526

"Max"
Jun 2016
Toronto

2AB16 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by EdH Actually, I think these polynomials are a bust. If I'm correct, the parameters and information about them is in this post. And, unfortunately, they're not from a better run according to what I have there. They were used for the graphs. What I am confused about though, is that I mention that the remainder of the parameters were from the c200 file, but if these are the polynomials for the graphs, they should have been from the c190 file instead. If you still want them, let me know, but for now I'll wait. Organization is apparently not a strong suit in my deck. . .
I still want them, mainly for the deductive practice. I'll try to determine which parameters were used to create them. If you know those parameters, even better, you'll be able to confirm whether it was correctly approached. I think it can be explained step-by-step how to do it.

2020-06-09, 13:36   #1913
EdH

"Ed Hall"
Dec 2009

22×3×269 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Max0526 I still want them, mainly for the deductive practice. I'll try to determine which parameters were used to create them. If you know those parameters, even better, you'll be able to confirm whether it was correctly approached. I think it can be explained step-by-step how to do it.
In studying these further, they couldn't possibly be from the post referenced earlier, so the only parameters I'm pretty sure of are:
Code:
degree: 5
incr:30
nq = 3125
nrkeep = 200
and, that's mostly because these items are in the files.

P: (maybe) 5000000
Attached Files
 c190.polyselect1..zip (1.70 MB, 5 views)

2020-06-10, 17:06   #1914
Max0526

"Max"
Jun 2016
Toronto

683 Posts

Quote:
 Originally Posted by EdH In studying these further, they couldn't possibly be from the post referenced earlier, so the only parameters I'm pretty sure of are: Code: degree: 5 admax: 25075200 admin: 25000000 incr:30 adrange: 1920 nq = 3125 nrkeep = 200 and, that's mostly because these items are in the files. P: (maybe) 5000000
P: 5000000 for sure.
The best two polys in the whole set are way too weak as they stand now. I will try to root-opt them, might give something better. I will let you know if anything pops up.

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