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Termonfeckin, IE
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"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!
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Nowhere
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A lot of well known companies use convicts, both as cheap labor, and in call centers. Just think -- your credit card information being handled by convicted felons... |
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Nowhere
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Some may find This Chicago Tribune column amusing:
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"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!
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However, Kass misused an apostrophe in his last sentence. ![]() EDIT: Sheepish retraction of my last sentence. Sanders ends in an 's', so this is an acceptable usage. It just made me imagine that there is more than one Bernie. Last fiddled with by kladner on 2020-01-16 at 19:51 |
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Couple of links - which could equally go in the Establishment Media Watch thread - on the weekend Dem "debate" held by CNN:
o Matt Taibbi: Media Stupidity on Sanders, Trump Is Uniting Left, Right - Rolling Stone o The Big Loser in the Iowa Debate? CNN’s Reputation | FAIR -- Ah yes, CNN's "so when did you stop beating your wife?" ambush attempt on Sanders. I prefer "credibility" in lieu of "reputation" here, because it better highlights the "you cannot lose that which you do not possess" aspect of the story. Abby Phillip asks Sanders loaded one-sided questions about his policy proposals and asks the other candidates loaded one-sided questions about Sanders' policy proposals, and former AIPAC shill Wolf Blitzer asks Sanders loaded one-sided questions about foreign policy of the "so your foreign policy is indistinguishable from that of Hitler, the Iranian Mullahs and Vladimir Putin?" ilk. The blatancy of the establishment attack-doggery here smacks of desperation. |
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"Tilman Neumann"
Jan 2016
Germany
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Cite: "This made the occasional things that he [Trump] said that were true, like [...] NATO was a bloated and outdated organization, pack significantly more punch." I heard about that stance, but I am baffled: Is this generally considered as a truth in the US? Or is Matt Taibbi a bit too quick? Last fiddled with by Till on 2020-01-22 at 18:09 Reason: double b |
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"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!
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------------------------------------------- I am more inclined to call NATO a US lackey, or lapdog: a henchman in the endless adventures of the "Indispensable" nation. Sorry for the pejorative terms. I hold the US, and the arms and oil industries to primary responsibility. I wish there was more push-back against militarism, both domestically in the US, and on the international scene. I could wonder why a North Atlantic Organization's member forces are doing bombing runs in the Middle East. But that only begs the question of why US of America forces have been assaulting and battering the region for decades. Again, arms profits and oil profits go hand in hand to keep things destabilized, especially if people power starts to take over anywhere. Friendly-to-the-US brutal autocrats are much more desirable "agents of stability." |
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"Tilman Neumann"
Jan 2016
Germany
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I share parts of your point of view, but I'ld like to mention that e.g. Schröder did not follow G.W. Bush into the Iraq war, Merkel is resisting many invocations, and nations like the UK or France having their own nuclear forces can hardly be considered as lackeys. (in particular France IMHO)
Furthermore, here in Germany we are experiencing the longest lasting period of peace in history, and many people would say that the NATO was crucial to achieve that, in particularly during the cold war. I feel grateful for that, and I think many other Germans feel similar. |
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"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!
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Thank you. You make some good points.
I'll have to do some reading and thinking on this. EDIT: You are right about the nuclear powers having more choices. They have chosen to use conventional weaponry in support of dubious US objectives. I guess that is part of my criticism. Perhaps worse is those powers giving in too much to the US's views on Iran and the tattered nuclear agreement. It should be remembered who destroyed that arrangement and reimposed criminal economic warfare when Iran was in compliance. Last fiddled with by kladner on 2020-01-23 at 15:23 |
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Do Germans perhaps view the eastern part of their country as having been under foreign military occupation until around 1990? And, if NATO is viewed by some as a US "lapdog," I wonder if any Europeans may have viewed the Warsaw Pact as being subservient to the Soviet Union. |
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