how to know if my ideas didnt tought before?

blob100 · 2010-01-27, 16:17

some days ago i tought about a new conjecture.
first of all im really new in the field of mathematics (im 14 years old).
my hobby is prime numbers and on my free time i work on it.
my problem is:
how to know if my conjecture didnt found before?
and how can i know if i should public it on the internet or just write a paper?

thanks tomer.

R.D. Silverman · 2010-01-27, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by blob100

some days ago i tought about a new conjecture.
first of all im really new in the field of mathematics (im 14 years old).
my hobby is prime numbers and on my free time i work on it.
my problem is:
how to know if my conjecture didnt found before?
and how can i know if i should public it on the internet or just write a paper?

thanks tomer.

Allow me to say:

If you want to communicate in a professional manner, then please take the
time to write proper English. This includes proper capitalization, punctuation,
spelling and grammar.

If you can't take the time to communicate properly, then why should
anyone else take the time to answer you?

And now, to answer your question: Just ask within this forum. Post it
here and we will tell you if it is new and whether it is known to be true
or false.

You should also take the time to read a book on elementary number theory
and do at least some of the exercizes. We can suggest some good ones.

I assume that you have at least mastered first year algebra? You can't
discuss mathematics intelligently unless you know at least some of the
basics and can formulate questions in language that makes sense.

xilman · 2010-01-27, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

Allow me to say:

If you want to communicate in a professional manner, then please take the
time to write proper English. This includes proper capitalization, punctuation,
spelling and grammar.

If you can't take the time to communicate properly, then why should
anyone else take the time to answer you?

The portion of your answer I did not quote is good advice and well phrased.

However, I suspect that tomer's native language may not be English. If I'm right, perhaps you should make some allowance for it.

I agree that an effort should be made to communicate in clear English (on an English-laguage forum anyway) but perhaps an effort has been made already.

When I was 14 neither my German nor my French was good enough to write an article which is as comprehensible as the one which started the thread. In fact, my French and German are probably still not good enough

Paul

Dougal · 2010-01-27, 18:43

Bob,do you have any common sense?I read the thread title and could tell that the poster didn't speak english as his/her first language.

bsquared · 2010-01-27, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

Allow me to say:

If you want to communicate in a professional manner, then please take the
time to write proper English. This includes proper capitalization, punctuation,
spelling and grammar.

Assuming the poster is ESL (english as a second language), I would hold them to what you say for formal publication. Even then, it does not always happen: I've read numerous journal articles in which ESL authors didn't quite hit the mark but nonetheless were understandable and were published.

Discussion here should be a little more relaxed than formal publication standards, IMO.

blob100 · 2010-01-27, 19:14

To R.D silverman.
As i told you I'm 14 years old and it isn't my native language.
I have read books about mathematics and I have a passion to mathematics.

BTW: to the other people that answered my questions: you didn't really found it important to answer it and instead of it you just spoke about my writing.

please write about the main theme, it is important for me more then my internet writing.

blob100 · 2010-01-27, 19:20

Dougal,
I have a common sense.
I published two problems:
1) how to know if my mathematical ideas didn't found before.
And the second was written only because I wanted to ask it,
Which was:
2) should I publish my mathematical ideals and conjectures on the internet or write a paper.
BTW: my name is Tomer and please don't be petty.

petrw1 · 2010-01-27, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by blob100

BTW: to the other people that answered my questions: you didn't really found it important to answer it and instead of it you just spoke about my writing.

In his defense Bob did suggest:

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

And now, to answer your question: Just ask within this forum. Post it
here and we will tell you if it is new and whether it is known to be true
or false.

If you include as many details as you can here I can tell you as a long standing member of this forum that you WILL get a good and fair answer.

Dougal · 2010-01-27, 19:22

posting your conjecture here will get you an answer to your question fairly quick.

blob100 · 2010-01-27, 19:27

I'll post the conjecture in some days only if my lecturer in the university will tell me a that it didn't found before.
BTW: I I'm too afraid to post it right now...
(till today no one knows about my ideas in mathematics without including my dad).
To be honest, I just don't know who is behind the computer on your sides which makes me wander if to post or not.

bsquared · 2010-01-27, 19:28

If you want to do some background searching before posting it here, then google scholar might be of help if you know what keywords to search. If you don't know how to categorize your work such that google returns nothing useful, then getting expert opinion in a place like this is a good option to get started.

2010-01-27, 16:17	#1
blob100 Jan 2010 379₁₀ Posts	how to know if my ideas didnt tought before? some days ago i tought about a new conjecture. first of all im really new in the field of mathematics (im 14 years old). my hobby is prime numbers and on my free time i work on it. my problem is: how to know if my conjecture didnt found before? and how can i know if i should public it on the internet or just write a paper? thanks tomer.

2010-01-27, 19:20	#7
blob100 Jan 2010 379 Posts	Dougal, I have a common sense. I published two problems: 1) how to know if my mathematical ideas didn't found before. And the second was written only because I wanted to ask it, Which was: 2) should I publish my mathematical ideals and conjectures on the internet or write a paper. BTW: my name is Tomer and please don't be petty. Last fiddled with by blob100 on 2010-01-27 at 19:20

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blob100 Jan 2010 379 Posts	To R.D silverman. As i told you I'm 14 years old and it isn't my native language. I have read books about mathematics and I have a passion to mathematics. BTW: to the other people that answered my questions: you didn't really found it important to answer it and instead of it you just spoke about my writing. please write about the main theme, it is important for me more then my internet writing.

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Dougal Jan 2009 Ireland 2·3·31 Posts	posting your conjecture here will get you an answer to your question fairly quick.

2010-01-27, 19:27	#10
blob100 Jan 2010 573₈ Posts	I'll post the conjecture in some days only if my lecturer in the university will tell me a that it didn't found before. BTW: I I'm too afraid to post it right now... (till today no one knows about my ideas in mathematics without including my dad). To be honest, I just don't know who is behind the computer on your sides which makes me wander if to post or not.

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bsquared "Ben" Feb 2007 3,371 Posts	If you want to do some background searching before posting it here, then google scholar might be of help if you know what keywords to search. If you don't know how to categorize your work such that google returns nothing useful, then getting expert opinion in a place like this is a good option to get started.