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Old 2020-08-10, 22:34   #991
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I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather.

Not screaming and shouting like the others in the car that he was driving at the time.
I once asked my Mother if she could prove she wasn't in a dream.

"Yes!", she immediately answered. "You're here, and therefore this is a nightmare.
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Old 2020-08-11, 02:29   #992
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Many believe wearing a mask infringes on their rights, so they don't do it. I fear it may take something really drastic to get the infection rate to drop. Maybe even martial law.
They are the "sheeple" that they claim others are. Even the death of a noted politician from an infection gotten at a political rally (Herman Cain) doesn't seem to have an impact. The Prez is being vary forked tongued about masks.
Well said, Sir! "The pandemic is just a hoax, so the Government can take away our rights." Yeesh. It's the Zombie Apocalypse, I tell you!

Of course, the deaths of 160,000 fellow-citizens doesn't seem to have had an impact, either.

One could question whether Mr. Cain contracted his fatal COVID-19 infection at the Tulsa rally, but it seems likely enough. Lots of people not wearing masks, and he became ill 9 days later -- well within the incubation period.

But -- martial law? Under this Administration? No, thanks! "We have to cancel the election..."

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Old 2020-08-11, 14:10   #993
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Those of us in less developed nations are observing what's been done in the "Great US of A" as "evolution in action".

It's a bit like watching a train wreck in slow motion in real-time.
No argument. Nothing like a bit of distance to improve perspective, but is grim from this end, too.
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Old 2020-08-11, 18:04   #994
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A war-correspondent during WWII, named Robert Sherrod, made a statement questioning the Marines willingness to fight. I will have to paraphrase. He said something like, "I wonder if these men can make the transition from the delights of peace to the horrors of war?"

Sherrod saw a lot in places like Tarawa, Saipan, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. He remarked later that they died by the thousands and never quit for an instant. Take the same group of 18 to 21 year-olds now, well, we would just be totally screwed. They would want timeout, have their butts wiped, and would be looking down at their phones all the time.

The U.S.A is limp like a wet rag. NATO member countries now consider us as being "unreliable." COVID-19 is so thick here, people from other parts of the world are actually afraid for their own safety in their native lands. I have never seen anything like this before, and it is not likely to improve anytime soon.

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Old 2020-08-11, 19:51   #995
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Take the same group of 18 to 21 year-olds now, well, we would just be totally screwed. They would want timeout, have their butts wiped, and would be looking down at their phones all the time.
I agree.
This is an anecdote about my uncle from his son:

My uncle enlisted in the navy in 1940 with his brother. Note this was BEFORE Pearl Harbor. Since he was mostly stationed on aircraft carriers, he was almost always at sea and frequently in combat. He rarely got the chance to send or receive mail. Despite the points system, he didn't muster out until the summer of 1946.

During Gulf War 1, he was watching the evening news that had a segment about our troop's morale. ALL of them were whining about not getting to call home every day and the cost of doing so when they did. He was so furious, he put his shoe thru the TV !! It was a tube TV, not a flat screen.
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Old 2020-08-11, 23:39   #996
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I agree.
This is an anecdote about my uncle from his son:

My uncle enlisted in the navy in 1940 with his brother. Note this was BEFORE Pearl Harbor. Since he was mostly stationed on aircraft carriers, he was almost always at sea and frequently in combat. He rarely got the chance to send or receive mail. Despite the points system, he didn't muster out until the summer of 1946.

During Gulf War 1, he was watching the evening news that had a segment about our troop's morale. ALL of them were whining about not getting to call home every day and the cost of doing so when they did. He was so furious, he put his shoe thru the TV !! It was a tube TV, not a flat screen.
Your uncle was in the navy for over 50 years. Desert Storm was in 1990, I believe. That is some kind of record.

It takes considerable force to break one of those old CRT tubes. Most country folk would get out the old scatter-gun and solve it that way.
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Old 2020-08-12, 00:58   #997
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Every generation has the older generation telling them they are soft.

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Old 2020-08-12, 02:16   #998
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Your uncle was in the navy for over 50 years. Desert Storm was in 1990, I believe. That is some kind of record.

It takes considerable force to break one of those old CRT tubes. Most country folk would get out the old scatter-gun and solve it that way.
In my post I said "He didn't muster out until 1946" so he did 6 years.
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Old 2020-08-12, 02:19   #999
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What is wrong with young people today? - A view from the past.
https://proto-knowledge.blogspot.com...today.html?m=1
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Old 2020-08-12, 03:08   #1000
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Every generation has the older generation telling them they are soft.
Which doesn't mean that for some generations, it isn't true. :)

I mean, a generation of smartphone-addicted screen-starers, and also the most overweight - at least in the US - in history.

Not that I'm blaming the kids, mind you - greedy corporations worked very hard to feed the various toxic addictions encompassed by the above, and a generation of overprotective "helicopter parents" did the rest.

"Butlerian Jihad" springs to mind ... except that the vision of what the protagonist wants to do by way of "re-educating" the Erewhonians in the referenced classic novel is really quite appalling.

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Old 2020-08-12, 12:58   #1001
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Some people say Socrates said this:
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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
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